toon25 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 What terms do we think he will struggle most to accept though? Not being the manager, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Probably have to take a paycut too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 What terms do we think he will struggle most to accept though? Low-ish salary he might be OK with, maybe also not having 100% control of transfers (he might not even want that). I reckon the coaching situation will be the blocker, when he's forced to take Carver and Stone instead of his own staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 As people have mentioned here, no one.. not the clubs or Vieira himself are denying anything. It ought to mean something surely? We're normally all over denying potentially good news stories, so it's obviously true. Doesn't mean much though, I fully expect him to run a mile when he finds out the terms on offer. Any manager with a sense of self respect would walk out of the office sharpish if he was told terms by thumbhead and what sort of say does Wenger and Pelligrini have on transfers are they told "this is what you get best of luck" .We all know we are light years away from those teams but it is still the same as who selects the players for the manager him with the help of a scout no say at all ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 What terms do we think he will struggle most to accept though? Keeping the three amigo's on as his coaches, having only a partial say in transfers, No guarantee of funds for new players unless the club nearly gets frigging relegated.............there's three just off the top of my head that would put must decent managers/coaches off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The inability to bring your own staff is a killer, basically means you're working on your own in a new job. Especially for a young manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I dont think a manager really needs to be heavily involved in the scouting process. As long as you have a good chief scout or DOF. The manager needs to be able to make recommendations and also request players of a certain type and sign off on any deals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 What terms do we think he will struggle most to accept though? Low-ish salary he might be OK with, maybe also not having 100% control of transfers (he might not even want that). I reckon the coaching situation will be the blocker, when he's forced to take Carver and Stone instead of his own staff. When you put it like that it doesn't seem there's that much to overcome. If it really comes down to it, surely they'd ditch the coaching staff at this point, and start completely afresh?! The Pardew compo money would pay off most of it anyway. Come on MA do the right thing! We're almost there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueview Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 What terms do we think he will struggle most to accept though? Low-ish salary he might be OK with, maybe also not having 100% control of transfers (he might not even want that). I reckon the coaching situation will be the blocker, when he's forced to take Carver and Stone instead of his own staff. He don´t have any staff.. yet As for money he got enough I´m sure, but I say that he would want to rebuild how NUFC operates in some ways.. Beardsley and him might have much to talk about for instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I dont think a manager really needs to be heavily involved in the scouting process. As long as you have a good chief scout or DOF. The manager needs to be able to make recommendations and also request players of a certain type and sign off on any deals Totally agree, this is overplayed in general. The manager has enough to deal with already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Imagine being forced to have Carver, Stone and Woodman as your coaches while trying to install a new footballing philosophy at a club. Carver scagging in your face like a creep the whole time while Stone and Woodman keep checking their dictionaries trying to keep up with what you're saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 He don´t have any staff.. yet I know, but he might have someone he has in mind as a trusted #2. Hopefully it would be someone absolutely class who he's played with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 There's nothing to say our muppets wouldn't allow him to add his own staff. Almost certain we will retain the idiots though. SSN reporting talks in the next 48 hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 We really need to fire Carver and Stone like, it's the ideal opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 He don´t have any staff.. yet I know, but he might have someone he has in mind as a trusted #2. Hopefully it would be someone absolutely class who he's played with. Bergkamp with any luck. Or Wiltord knowing our luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wiltord was good man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I dont think a manager really needs to be heavily involved in the scouting process. As long as you have a good chief scout or DOF. The manager needs to be able to make recommendations and also request players of a certain type and sign off on any deals Agree, that shouldn't bother most non British managers. The big problem is having to work with the useless fuckers that are currently here. Apart from that, working under Ashley probably isn't so bad, especially for a new coach. He will be given plenty of time, even if he fails, far more so than at any other PL club, and if he does well, we'll not stand in his way to move to a bigger club. Also, if he does fail, he'll have the Ashley/Newcastle excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wiltord was good man. Couldn't think of anyone worse from that Arsenal era though :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueview Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 He don´t have any staff.. yet I know, but he might have someone he has in mind as a trusted #2. Hopefully it would be someone absolutely class who he's played with. I can just see it: Patrick Vieira: Put your boots on TH, we are on pitch unless we score soon... Thierry Henry: Right boss.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wiltord was good man. Couldn't think of anyone worse from that Arsenal era though :-) Grimandi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 "Compensation would not be an issue for Newcastle" there we go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Graham Carr came from Man City didn't he, how long ago was that? wonder if him an Vieira have crossed paths Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wiltord was good man. Couldn't think of anyone worse from that Arsenal era though :-) francis Jeffers. Stepanovs. Pennant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueview Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Graham Carr came from Man City didn't he, how long ago was that? wonder if him an Vieira have crossed paths Don´t think so.. Mark Hughes replaced Carr with some mate and that was when PV was with Inter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 "Compensation would not be an issue for Newcastle" there we go They keep saying this I'll believe it when I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now