Charlie Austin

[triggs]

Is Austin much better than Cisse like?

[Wallace]

He must be worth £15m like, anyone getting him for less than that is getting a good deal in the current market.

 

Van Persie was probably the best player in the PL when he went to Man Utd and that was only 20m with one year left. Austin is mainly a poacher who has had one season in the PL. 15m is still a lot of money anywhere outside England and we could get a lot better player for that price from abroad

 

That was also years ago, prices continue to inflate, and the english player premium still exists today

It was about 3 years ago. They can't have inflated that much. We could get basically any player in La Liga outside of the top five for 15m and similar or less wages than we would have to pay Austin

 

Well, it's not far fetched imo to suggest transfer fees in general may have increased by 50% in that time. Nowadays 10m gets you a promising youngster or a good player from the Championship, not a number 9 who has just scored 18 in his debut season in the Premier League.

 

No one will spend £10m on a youngster or a Championship player unless they have got something special about them and a real chance of making it to the top. Generally only a player who shows signs of potential will tempt a club to pay that much.

 

Fulham paid £11m last season for Ross McCormack.  Leicester paid £8m for Ulloa.  Desperate clubs will pay the money. 

[TRon]

No chance we'll spend more than £12m on him so I guess the only hope we have is Leicesters offer was spread over 4 years and we are willing to pay upfront.

 

Or that the bid wasn't even made and it's just QPR trying to up the price.

[TRon]

He must be worth £15m like, anyone getting him for less than that is getting a good deal in the current market.

 

Van Persie was probably the best player in the PL when he went to Man Utd and that was only 20m with one year left. Austin is mainly a poacher who has had one season in the PL. 15m is still a lot of money anywhere outside England and we could get a lot better player for that price from abroad

 

That was also years ago, prices continue to inflate, and the english player premium still exists today

It was about 3 years ago. They can't have inflated that much. We could get basically any player in La Liga outside of the top five for 15m and similar or less wages than we would have to pay Austin

 

Well, it's not far fetched imo to suggest transfer fees in general may have increased by 50% in that time. Nowadays 10m gets you a promising youngster or a good player from the Championship, not a number 9 who has just scored 18 in his debut season in the Premier League.

 

No one will spend £10m on a youngster or a Championship player unless they have got something special about them and a real chance of making it to the top. Generally only a player who shows signs of potential will tempt a club to pay that much.

 

Fulham paid £11m last season for Ross McCormack.  Leicester paid £8m for Ulloa.  Desperate clubs will pay the money. 

 

Ulloa for £8m was about right, he's not a bad player for that price considering he wasn't in the last year of his contract. Don't know anything about McCormack, can only assume he is shite and Fulham took the bait.

[Papavasiliou]

Fulham paid £11m last season for Ross McCormack.  Leicester paid £8m for Ulloa.  Desperate clubs will pay the money.

 

*Cough* Andy Carroll *Cough*

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I reckon in a hundred years time people will still be saying, "but Andy Carrol was £35m". It's that bad a deal.

[Deuce]

Would rather take a punt on someone from abroad at a similar price than pay £15m for Austin who's got one year left on his contract. It's embarrassing.

 

'Proven' Premier League scorer is a stretch in my opinion. One season surely should not equate to being 'proven' at any level?

 

Forget the fact we have £xxm in the bank, it would be a ridiculous price to pay.

 

Normally I'd agree, but he does have a track record of scoring at every level. It's possible last season was an outlier and he's more like a 10-goal per season striker in the PL, but even that would represent really good value at £15mil. Just can't see him dropping off completely, the guy is a goalscorer.

[Guest Roger Kint]

Just seen someone use the argument 'why buy the potential next Michael Rickets for £15m when we can go for unknown quality like Perez instead for far cheaper?' Thats my fill of twitter til Monday i think

[mrmojorisin75]

Whatever way you cut it 15-20m for Austin is a gamble purely because he's only ever had one season of top flight football. It's likely he'll not be shite but it's also just as likely he'll not get 20+ PL goals in a season the rest of his career

[Scoot]

It seems we're just sitting there watching everyone else buy and bid for players. Literally just sitting, watching.

 

I think they prefer the term monitoring mate.

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Oh aye, we love a good monitor.

[sempuki]

Someone should just buy him so we can close this thread. Given up on this now.

[Anderson]

15m is ridiculous IMO. One year left on his contract and only 1 season in the PL. We could get a lot better players for that IMO

 

1 year left on his contract is irrelevant if his goals get them promoted. £15m is more than a fair price from where they're stood.

[Klaus]

Our plan is probably to drag this out till next summer and get him for free #wait.

[Anderson]

Fulham paid £11m last season for Ross McCormack.  Leicester paid £8m for Ulloa.  Desperate clubs will pay the money.

 

*Cough* Andy Carroll *Cough*

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19256084

[Si]

15m is ridiculous IMO. One year left on his contract and only 1 season in the PL. We could get a lot better players for that IMO

We couldn't, but yeah conceivably another side could.

[mrmojorisin75]

i think i'd go with what someone else said tbh, being the club we are...if you were moving into the 15-20m bracket then bail on austin and blow it on the next big european prospect you can get for the same price range

[STM]

QPR can wait until the last day before lowering their price.

[mrmojorisin75]

QPR can wait until the last day before lowering their price.

 

as has been stated why would they?  he's probably a 20 goal striker down there, keep him and lose for nothing is worth more to them than selling for fuck all

[triggs]

QPR can wait until the last day before lowering their price.

 

as has been stated why would they?  he's probably a 20 goal striker down there, keep him and lose for nothing is worth more to them than selling for fuck all

Don't they need money badly though?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Also he's probably absolutely desperate to get a big move back to the PL.

[Guest Gino14]

I think that sometimes this 1 year left on the contract thing doesn't always really apply.  I know it's supposed to apply to assets in a business and there's amortisation and stuff like that, but it's a bit different in this case, because Austin is quite an in demand player.  A lot of the time clubs say "well we'll wait and sign him on a free later" and that's part of the bargaining strategy, especially when getting closer to the six month point when players can sign for someone else for free for the next season.  That simply won't happen here though, not when you've got a player with 20 premier league goals and a lot of clubs interested.  Someone is going to buy him in this window and there's just too many interested parties for the length of his contract to be a bargaining chip.  His value is what it is and someone will pay up, because good premier league goalscorers are hard to come by.  I think the longer QPR wait and the longer teams don't manage to get other targets, the more likely it is someone else will blink first and they'll get their 15m.  Whether he's worth that because of his contract, amount of good seasons and all that other stuff is debatable, but I still think they'll get their 15m or very close to it.  A lot of people in football, rightly or wrongly seem to think he's worth that and eventually some chairman or director of Football will agree I think.  I know it won't be our chairman and director of football though. 

 

I'd say the chance of us actually paying 15m is close to zero and we're just going to lose out to someone with the ambition to pay the going rate, or even over the going rate to secure the player they need.  Meanwhile we'll be left holding our balance sheet champions trophy once again, languishing in the lower depths of the league.  I'd love for the new board or whatever is actually controlling this club to prove me wrong, but I really doubt they will.

[mrmojorisin75]

QPR can wait until the last day before lowering their price.

 

as has been stated why would they?  he's probably a 20 goal striker down there, keep him and lose for nothing is worth more to them than selling for fuck all

Don't they need money badly though?

 

don't think so, unless fernandez has fucked off?  they're due a huge fine due to FFP rules afaik but selling austin won't help with that....getting back up has to be their priority surely

[Wallace]

I doubt we are interested anymore.  We refuse to get involved in bidding wars and will let it be known that we "stepped aside".

 

If they had gone for him as soon as the season ended, they would probably have got him.

[TRon]

i think i'd go with what someone else said tbh, being the club we are...if you were moving into the 15-20m bracket then bail on austin and blow it on the next big european prospect you can get for the same price range

 

That's the way I would go but it looks like when we do go abroad our budget also goes south. So where we'll offer £12m for an English player, abroad we'll be looking at spending £6m for the same position.

[Unbelievable]

I think that sometimes this 1 year left on the contract thing doesn't always really apply.  I know it's supposed to apply to assets in a business and there's amortisation and stuff like that, but it's a bit different in this case, because Austin is quite an in demand player.  A lot of the time clubs say "well we'll wait and sign him on a free later" and that's part of the bargaining strategy, especially when getting closer to the six month point when players can sign for someone else for free for the next season.  That simply won't happen here though, not when you've got a player with 20 premier league goals and a lot of clubs interested.  Someone is going to buy him in this window and there's just too many interested parties for the length of his contract to be a bargaining chip.  His value is what it is and someone will pay up, because good premier league goalscorers are hard to come by.  I think the longer QPR wait and the longer teams don't manage to get other targets, the more likely it is someone else will blink first and they'll get their 15m.  Whether he's worth that because of his contract, amount of good seasons and all that other stuff is debatable, but I still think they'll get their 15m or very close to it.  A lot of people in football, rightly or wrongly seem to think he's worth that and eventually some chairman or director of Football will agree I think.  I know it won't be our chairman and director of football though. 

 

I'd say the chance of us actually paying 15m is close to zero and we're just going to lose out to someone with the ambition to pay the going rate, or even over the going rate to secure the player they need.  Meanwhile we'll be left holding our balance sheet champions trophy once again, languishing in the lower depths of the league.  I'd love for the new board or whatever is actually controlling this club to prove me wrong, but I really doubt they will.

 

Nailed it