Mole_Toonfan Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 As a team, they really looked like they couldn't be arsed more often than not. I don't dislike him to nearly the same extent as many here. But he's gone now so it's rather moot point and not worthing arguing about. The "SELL 'IM AT WHATEVUH PRICE!" crowd have always been retards though. With Deuce here, i really never hated him at all tbh. I don't hate Sissoko either but if i did i would definitely feel a lot more distain towards him than Wijnaldum. You would think the way some feel about them they were the sole reasons we were relegated, but anyway good luck to him i don't really care either way to feel any real emotion about it all. We got a decent amount of money for him so hopefully we can move on now and Rafa can invest it wisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Gini reminded me so much of Dyer. Someone who obviously had the talent but very often never executed it or couldn't be bothered to. He does have an issue imposing himself on games and also like Dyer I don't really know what his position was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Dyer was a CM. A very good one too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Absolutely mental how many people forgive everything once a player says a few kind words after signing a contract on 60k+ p/w at a new club after offering us fuck all since november. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 The thing with Wijnaldum was that he thought he was better than the club from the start, you could tell by his attitude and especially work rate. He probably thinks he's too good to be playing for Liverpool too. I don't think anyone on here is going to say he's not one of the more talented players we ever signed, potentially top 10 (on talent. not results). The fucker probably thinks he'll end up at Real Madrid so he's not gonna bust his bollocks for anyone until then. I'll say one thing, if he pulls the same shit at Liverpool, those supporters will proper turn on him. It may take them a bit longer to cop what's happening but they will see the same traits we did eventually. Based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Alternatively, I look at a player who was likely told we wouldn't stand in his way if he wanted to make the next step. As has been the case with transfers for years under Ashley. And then he had to play for clueless Steve McClaren. None of our players looked up for it last season and I can't say I blame them either. He's a very good player who will probably do very well in a much better squad under a better manager (and I'm talking McClaren, not Rafa). Anita looked up for it. Townsend looked up for it. Mitrovic looked up for it. There's no need to make excuses for this lad. At least Wijnaldum managed to last a full season here and only left for one of England's premier clubs. Unlike Townsend who sold his soul to Pardew in order to play for one of the shittest clubs in London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I hate Liverpool and their shitty "YNWA". Bye Wijnaldum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 From our point of view, Wijnaldum will barely feature as a sentence in our history. Probably tack him onto a paragraph about spineless mercenaries using us as a stepping stone to those teams battling for 4th in the Premier League and segue that into a paragraph on Mike Ashley running the club as a business nonce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Absolutely mental how many people forgive everything once a player says a few kind words after signing a contract on 60k+ p/w at a new club after offering us f*** all since november. Not really because i never felt like you do at any stage, the letter has nothing to do with it. If i thought he was a cunt a letter wouldn't change that viewpoint. I imagine most people who feel the same way didn't particularly think he was a cunt before or after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Just a standard old footballer as far as I'm concerned. No hard feelings from me really. He was shit for a long time. Along with plenty of other people. Meh. I think he'll do alright at Liverpool, but it surprises me that they're not aiming higher. They need to drop £50m on a world class player to step them up, not just sign players on the same level as they have already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 His problem, a very major one, is he is not suitable for games where we arent dominating. He is an excellent attacker with astounding technique and good positioning but thats all. He is not someone who will come out to change the game. Instead he would just feel todays not the day and faded out. This may due to he used to play for league leaders in Netherlands since young. Good player, but wrong set up and timing. He may perform well under Klopp for many matches but likely he would hide again whenever Liverpool is under pressure. I expect he labelled as a flop 2 yrs later desite scoring several goals per season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Wijnaldum was totally unsuited to being at a team and club like NUFC when he signed....we were a club going nowhere and with a mediocre set up in the boardroom and in the training ground. The negativity of the whole situation would soon transfer itself to a player like him, a mercenary with no ties to the club other than his paycheck so it was inevitable he would be on his way as soon as we went down. Good player technically, but a liability in the Championship where big hearts are as important as skills...that is why Rafa has been signing the players he has already, and I reckon only about 3 of them will be decent in the PL if we go back up. We need the money, Gini needed to go, good deal on both sides because Wijnaldum would not have been an asset in the Champ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 He's Kevin Nolan with better technical ability. Lacks so many attributes to ever be excelling at the highest level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 He's Kevin Nolan with better technical ability. Sorry mate, but that's the most inaccurate description I've ever read. He's not at all similar to Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 A goalscoring midfielder is the only thing that links the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Gini reminded me so much of Dyer. Someone who obviously had the talent but very often never executed it or couldn't be bothered to. He does have an issue imposing himself on games and also like Dyer I don't really know what his position was. Aye, early on especially he reminded me of Dyer. He looked the kind of midfielder we'd lacked for years with his abolity to ghost into the box. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Fellaini may be the better comparison. And like Fellaini, he probably won't quite cut it at the top end of the Premiership, but would do well at the likes of Everton or Southampton. Possibly Liverpool, but his technique is only average and Klopp might well want more from him in that area. Having seen him play for Holland in the World Cup, I thought he was an excellent buy, and I saw him as filling Tiote's position as midfield anchorman. Turned out, he wasn't suited or ready for that role in the Premiership, but it felt like we couldn't play him as a box to box player either because we didn't have a decent midfield anchorman behind him who could take care of the defensive side in the centre. So with the intention of getting the best possible use of resources, McClaren put him wide left, where he struggled to get involved consistently. I don't go for the idea that he didn't care or didn't put in the effort. He just looked lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Interesting post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Fellaini That's actually an even worse description/comparison than Kevin Nolan. Dyer is a pretty good one though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Having seen him play for Holland in the World Cup, I thought he was an excellent buy, and I saw him as filling Tiote's position as midfield anchorman. You never cease to amaze with your keen eye and blazingly accurate assessment of a player. If we kept him then Tiote could have moved up and been our Essien. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Seen a lot of posts online by scousers calling him 'Gigi' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Dyer offered loads more than Wijnaldum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Fellaini That's actually an even worse description/comparison than Kevin Nolan. Dyer is a pretty good one though. How he compares with this, that or the other attacking midfielder isn't the point at issue. The fact is we ended up playing him wide left, a role where he was never, ever going to shine. I'd be interested to hear alternative theories as to how that happened. Other than McClaren doesn't know anything about football, preferably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Midfield anchorman More suited to being a TV anchorman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 How do you lot think they play him and Mane. Interesting to see how midfield lines up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I think he'll do just fine. His time here was spent in a largely directionless team, underperfroming and low on morale. He lost more and more heart as the season progressed and his smile faded with it, but the few occasions the team 'clicked' and dominated for a win he was invariably one of the better players. He should have never been paying on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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