Marmoset Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 You have to be absolutely exceptional in other areas if you are weak in the air to be a good cb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A CB needs to be good in the air in the PL, like. It was certainly a priority here under Bobby and KK. I’m certain you don’t rate Colo in the air (well, full stop!) but he was voted as one of the two best CHs in the league by his fellow pros in 2011-12! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A CB needs to be good in the air in the PL, like. It was certainly a priority here under Bobby and KK. Bobby and Kev once more and we leave 'em dead, we want good with their feet but a freak with their head to say... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A CB needs to be good in the air in the PL, like. It was certainly a priority here under Bobby and KK. It's like being in the twlight zone. "Not necessarily essential" - errr, yes it is for a PL CB. How many great CB's aren't good in the air? You don't have to be a big lad either. Gallas and Ramos aren't particularly tall but they are good in the air, great leaps and great heading technique/accuracy. I'd rather a slow CB than one that isn't good in the air. Colo was both and apart from 2 PL seasons, he was largely poor. In his better seasons he attacked / judged the flight of the ball so much better and won more of his headers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Whats the Chance Mbemba gets dropped? Fucking 'L' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the radio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He'll be back in at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 In retrospect we had no chance last season. We needed someone to come in to make an immediate impact. 12 months later, I don't think he deserves to be in the starting 11. Lascelles and Clarke are better than expected but still.... wasn't Mbemba meant to be the best defender in the division? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. By all accounts his attitude wasn't the most committed at the start of the season but hopefully that's changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Still think he is the best of our four. Hope he works his way back in there. All that said, Clark and Lascelles look solid so far so hard for him to do so. Think he got rested and then Clark just looked better when he came in so its a waiting game for the Chancellor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Clark and Lascelles are more suited to this league IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Is Mbemba more suited to dealing with Benteke, Ibra, Llorente and co? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Is Mbemba more suited to dealing with Benteke, Ibra, Llorente and co? No but he probably is to Aguero and strikers of that ilk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Meh don't want too much shuffling at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. That performance was no worse than Clark's against Reading or Lascelles against Fulham. Aside from that anyway he was part of the team which conceded zero goals in over 400 minutes and a big reason why. Let's not act like he's been consistently bad, if anything it's the opposite. Clark has been great from what I have seen so deserves his place until further notice, but the majority of Mbemba's performances have been great and all 3 of the CBs in question have had poor performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. That performance was no worse than Clark's against Reading or Lascelles against Fulham. Aside from that anyway he was part of the team which conceded zero goals in over 400 minutes and a big reason why. Let's not act like he's been consistently bad, if anything it's the opposite. Clark has been great from what I have seen so deserves his place until further notice, but the majority of Mbemba's performances have been great and all 3 of the CBs in question have had poor performances. I don't dislike Mbemba but this is tosh, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. That performance was no worse than Clark's against Reading or Lascelles against Fulham. Aside from that anyway he was part of the team which conceded zero goals in over 400 minutes and a big reason why. Let's not act like he's been consistently bad, if anything it's the opposite. Clark has been great from what I have seen so deserves his place until further notice, but the majority of Mbemba's performances have been great and all 3 of the CBs in question have had poor performances. Did you see the Wolves and Reading games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 What Mole said People seem to forget his good performances for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Is Mbemba more suited to dealing with Benteke, Ibra, Llorente and co? No but he probably is to Aguero and strikers of that ilk because he can run faster? He's not a good enough defender between the ears for that to matter much against a player with world class movement, anticipation and finishing. I'll give you Shane Long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Quick! To the player who hasn't playeds thread to repeat everything you said 4 weeks ago on loop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Wolves no but everyone is saying he was utter shite so I'll go along with that, Reading I did yes because that weird bloke was periscoping it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. That performance was no worse than Clark's against Reading or Lascelles against Fulham. Aside from that anyway he was part of the team which conceded zero goals in over 400 minutes and a big reason why. Let's not act like he's been consistently bad, if anything it's the opposite. Clark has been great from what I have seen so deserves his place until further notice, but the majority of Mbemba's performances have been great and all 3 of the CBs in question have had poor performances. I don't dislike Mbemba but this is tosh, like. It's not at all based on what I have seen, Wolves was apparently shite but he's been very good in every game he's played Wolves aside that has been on television. We went into that Wolves game not conceding in over 400 minutes, he had a bad game but let's not act like it was a consistent thing. Clark has come in and done a good job and deserves his place till he fucks up but that doesn't mean Mbemba crap and it was a long time coming or some shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Is Mbemba more suited to dealing with Benteke, Ibra, Llorente and co? No but he probably is to Aguero and strikers of that ilk because he can run faster? He's not a good enough defender between the ears for that to matter much against a player with world class movement, anticipation and finishing. I'll give you Shane Long. You do realise Clark was consistently poor at that level for a good few years? It remains to be seen whether that was because he was in a shit team but you can't give one player the benefit of the doubt and not another player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Wasn't he getting praised to the hilt, pre Wolves, for some excellent performances? He certainly put in what I thought was the best shift to date, out of any of our defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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