BlueStar Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Keeps this up and he'll have a worse recent record than they sacked Warnock for. Warnock was given 16 games and sacked for winning only 3 of them, Pards has 4 wins in his last 18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Keeps this up and he'll have a worse recent record than they sacked Warnock for. Warnock was given 16 games and sacked for winning only 3 of them, Pards has 4 wins in his last 18. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I was considering chelping at Shearer on Twitter asking why ex pros are so keen to defend shit managers at the expense of current pro players when it comes to analysis. Considering the experience he had with Gulliitt and SBR at our place you'd really think he'd understand what a really good manager can do with a group of average to shit players, but everytime I hear Shearer speaking he's putting all on the players. Failed managers don't want to be seen to be criticising other managers. Harsh to call Shearer a failed manager I know but I think that's his viewpoint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I was considering chelping at Shearer on Twitter asking why ex pros are so keen to defend shit managers at the expense of current pro players when it comes to analysis. Considering the experience he had with Gulliitt and SBR at our place you'd really think he'd understand what a really good manager can do with a group of average to shit players, but everytime I hear Shearer speaking he's putting all on the players. Failed managers don't want to be seen to be criticising other managers. Harsh to call Shearer a failed manager I know but I think that's his viewpoint Yeah he'll feel very let down by the players in that 8 game stint, and rightly so. Still you'd think the hundreds of games he had as a player might also come into play[emoji38] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Time to repost this yet? From 29/12/14 Yeah. In order to win any points at all in a Pardew team you need someone up front who can make something out of nothing. Ba, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Remy etc have all done it at one time or another. One of the main things we've all noticed is that if he hasn't got someone like that in form to bail him out, we go on long, long losing streaks. He has no interest whatsoever in setting up a team that can create a chance. We don't create chances as a team. Individuals score a goal due to a bit of brilliance (he talks constantly about luck and 'magic') if you haven't got that, you're stuffed because his teams aren't solid and will concede lots and lots of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Time to bump those posts on the palace forum now IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Got an easy ride on the Sunday Supplement again this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Time to bump those posts on the palace forum now IMO Nah, wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Time to bump those posts on the palace forum now IMO Nah, wait. Aye this is just starting, nowhere near vinegar strokes yet, wait for maximum impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Bolasie is back for their next game, which is a pity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Time to bump those posts on the palace forum now IMO Nah, wait. Exactly. Cool your jets man. Especially considering the position we're in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Time to bump those posts on the palace forum now IMO Nah, wait. Exactly. Cool your jets man. Especially considering the position we're in. i dunno like, no one ever claimed he'd relegate them this season, nor that we'd suddenly soar to unknown heights without his weight on our shoulders - we said he was shit and incapable of getting them out of the dismal runs he contrives to create; they're currently close to going over a quarter of the season without a win so we're likely to be as close to proven right about him as we'll ever be tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 http://blog.betbright.com/football/alan-pardew-boom-and-bust/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 http://blog.betbright.com/football/alan-pardew-boom-and-bust/ That is superbly written and fucking spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 http://blog.betbright.com/football/alan-pardew-boom-and-bust/ http://i.imgur.com/6mIGfSm.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Aye - it's a fair summary of the bloke's managerial chops. Can generate a wave and ride it. You know sometimes when his team is on a roll they'll beat or have a decent performance against teh next oppo. When it's slump time, Gateshead could turn over any of his teams. Home, away it doesn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 http://i.giphy.com/c453ypM8rqm1a.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 ....so now someone sees the pattern other than "deluded Geordies". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Aye - it's a fair summary of the bloke's managerial chops. Can generate a wave and ride it. You know sometimes when his team is on a roll they'll beat or have a decent performance against teh next oppo. When it's slump time, Gateshead could turn over any of his teams. Home, away it doesn't matter. Yep, this is what I always said about him. Thing I didn't realise was that none of it was to do with actually knowing what he's doing with tactics etc, it was just keeping the lads happy when someone in the team happens to win a game for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Aye - it's a fair summary of the bloke's managerial chops. Can generate a wave and ride it. You know sometimes when his team is on a roll they'll beat or have a decent performance against teh next oppo. When it's slump time, Gateshead could turn over any of his teams. Home, away it doesn't matter. Yep, this is what I always said about him. Thing I didn't realise was that none of it was to do with actually knowing what he's doing with tactics etc, it was just keeping the lads happy when someone in the team happens to win a game for him. How much of management is down to 'tactics'? I think someone like SMC is a good coach but perhaps a poor tactician and has poor motivation skills. Pardew seems pretty poor at everything but can whip up tremendous team spirit and is generally liked by players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Liked by players? Isn't there loads of evidence that many from his past think he's a nob? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Aye - it's a fair summary of the bloke's managerial chops. Can generate a wave and ride it. You know sometimes when his team is on a roll they'll beat or have a decent performance against teh next oppo. When it's slump time, Gateshead could turn over any of his teams. Home, away it doesn't matter. Yep, this is what I always said about him. Thing I didn't realise was that none of it was to do with actually knowing what he's doing with tactics etc, it was just keeping the lads happy when someone in the team happens to win a game for him. How much of management is down to 'tactics'? I think someone like SMC is a good coach but perhaps a poor tactician and has poor motivation skills. Pardew seems pretty poor at everything but can whip up tremendous team spirit and is generally liked by players. I don't know TBH. How important a manager is in general is something that's hard to quantify. If you gave Steve Arsenal's squad he would get into the Champions League quite easily I imagine. This season has raised a lot of those type of questions. The manager is just one piece in the puzzle of the club. We have an embedded culture of failure, and bad transfer policy, so any manager has a hard job on. Then again, to relegate a squad containing as many good players as this would seem to be something uniquely awful on the face of it. TBH I don't know how important a manager is, 'it depends' is probably the best answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 He's well liked by players who he'll never drop despite how bad they are, or how badly out of form they are. To be fair not that different than other managers i guess but more importantly. The mans a horrendous human being, utter scum who made me hate watching the team i love. That's all that counts for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Aye - it's a fair summary of the bloke's managerial chops. Can generate a wave and ride it. You know sometimes when his team is on a roll they'll beat or have a decent performance against teh next oppo. When it's slump time, Gateshead could turn over any of his teams. Home, away it doesn't matter. Yep, this is what I always said about him. Thing I didn't realise was that none of it was to do with actually knowing what he's doing with tactics etc, it was just keeping the lads happy when someone in the team happens to win a game for him. How much of management is down to 'tactics'? I think someone like SMC is a good coach but perhaps a poor tactician and has poor motivation skills. Pardew seems pretty poor at everything but can whip up tremendous team spirit and is generally liked by players. I don't know TBH. How important a manager is in general is something that's hard to quantify. If you gave Steve Arsenal's squad he would get into the Champions League quite easily I imagine. This season has raised a lot of those type of questions. The manager is just one piece in the puzzle of the club. We have an embedded culture of failure, and bad transfer policy, so any manager has a hard job on. Then again, to relegate a squad containing as many good players as this would seem to be something uniquely awful on the face of it. TBH I don't know how important a manager is, 'it depends' is probably the best answer. No way man Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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