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I'm staggered by this thread. Seriously, I don't think the reality has hit them just how downright awful their squad is. There are weak players everywhere, Pickford is getting a lot of praise, but it's the Rob Elliot effect, get stuck been a terrible defence make a few highlight saves and suddenly your player of the season, his all round game looks suspect to me from the small amount I've seen of him, that's understandable though as he's only young. Defoe is 105 and quite frankly showing it at the moment, he's their only goal threat, that's why everyone thinks he's so great, but he's not, he's really is not, just the only player in that team that can score. Goal at the weekend was a penalty. The rest of them, honestly it is about as weak as I have ever seen in the PL. I read 4 clubs were going to pay them 10 million for Kone, ffs do these clubs not watch the games ?  It's all about how they finished last season with one more point than us, so naturally they are a better team. Long may their heads stay firmly planted in the sand hopefully the management and ownership think that when the 3 or so players (which is now according to them half a team) return from injuries they'll be fine.

 

We had a better team and squad then them last year but were managed by an absolute kretin for the bulk of the season, while they employed some 17th place specialist in October and had teams like Everton rolling over for them in the run in. Since then they've actually weakened their squad in the window, they've bought absolutely no quality, lost the key loans they had, while we have managed to get rid of the deadwood, replaced the lost players with quality and filled out our squad. Our players are getting way better coached and are in way better condition. Yes we are playing in a weaker division but I have no doubt in my mind that if you swap situations we would be doing better than 2 points from 10 games in the PL with our team while they wouldn't be anywhere near our 34 from 15, with the shambles of a squad they've put together. Crossing paths at the end of the season, if it happens, will be so sweet, lets hope nothing changes between now and then.

 

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/this-place-really-does-have-an-inferiority-complex.1292041/

 

 

 

even as a leaver, I cant imagine being the brexit flagship town will be motivating the foreign players as well.

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I'm staggered by this thread. Seriously, I don't think the reality has hit them just how downright awful their squad is. There are weak players everywhere, Pickford is getting a lot of praise, but it's the Rob Elliot effect, get stuck been a terrible defence make a few highlight saves and suddenly your player of the season, his all round game looks suspect to me from the small amount I've seen of him, that's understandable though as he's only young. Defoe is 105 and quite frankly showing it at the moment, he's their only goal threat, that's why everyone thinks he's so great, but he's not, he's really is not, just the only player in that team that can score. Goal at the weekend was a penalty. The rest of them, honestly it is about as weak as I have ever seen in the PL. I read 4 clubs were going to pay them 10 million for Kone, ffs do these clubs not watch the games ?  It's all about how they finished last season with one more point than us, so naturally they are a better team. Long may their heads stay firmly planted in the sand hopefully the management and ownership think that when the 3 or so players (which is now according to them half a team) return from injuries they'll be fine.

 

We had a better team and squad then them last year but were managed by an absolute kretin for the bulk of the season, while they employed some 17th place specialist in October and had teams like Everton rolling over for them in the run in. Since then they've actually weakened their squad in the window, they've bought absolutely no quality, lost the key loans they had, while we have managed to get rid of the deadwood, replaced the lost players with quality and filled out our squad. Our players are getting way better coached and are in way better condition. Yes we are playing in a weaker division but I have no doubt in my mind that if you swap situations we would be doing better than 2 points from 10 games in the PL with our team while they wouldn't be anywhere near our 34 from 15, with the shambles of a squad they've put together. Crossing paths at the end of the season, if it happens, will be so sweet, lets hope nothing changes between now and then.

 

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/this-place-really-does-have-an-inferiority-complex.1292041/

 

That Dangertosser is the bitterest arsehole in the world!

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As I don't think I cared much about these lot all those years we were in a different stratosphere compared to them, can someone enlighten me (and them) if our fans acted in such a retarded way they've been going on since Pardew gave them an upper hand in the derbies?

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I'm staggered by this thread. Seriously, I don't think the reality has hit them just how downright awful their squad is. There are weak players everywhere, Pickford is getting a lot of praise, but it's the Rob Elliot effect, get stuck been a terrible defence make a few highlight saves and suddenly your player of the season, his all round game looks suspect to me from the small amount I've seen of him, that's understandable though as he's only young. Defoe is 105 and quite frankly showing it at the moment, he's their only goal threat, that's why everyone thinks he's so great, but he's not, he's really is not, just the only player in that team that can score. Goal at the weekend was a penalty. The rest of them, honestly it is about as weak as I have ever seen in the PL. I read 4 clubs were going to pay them 10 million for Kone, ffs do these clubs not watch the games ?  It's all about how they finished last season with one more point than us, so naturally they are a better team. Long may their heads stay firmly planted in the sand hopefully the management and ownership think that when the 3 or so players (which is now according to them half a team) return from injuries they'll be fine.

 

We had a better team and squad then them last year but were managed by an absolute kretin for the bulk of the season, while they employed some 17th place specialist in October and had teams like Everton rolling over for them in the run in. Since then they've actually weakened their squad in the window, they've bought absolutely no quality, lost the key loans they had, while we have managed to get rid of the deadwood, replaced the lost players with quality and filled out our squad. Our players are getting way better coached and are in way better condition. Yes we are playing in a weaker division but I have no doubt in my mind that if you swap situations we would be doing better than 2 points from 10 games in the PL with our team while they wouldn't be anywhere near our 34 from 15, with the shambles of a squad they've put together. Crossing paths at the end of the season, if it happens, will be so sweet, lets hope nothing changes between now and then.

 

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/this-place-really-does-have-an-inferiority-complex.1292041/

 

That Dangertosser is the bitterest arsehole in the world!

 

that thread is fucking terrifying :lol:

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Looking at it without Newcastle tinted glasses on, they looked so poor on Saturday. Watched the whole game and it was staggering how Moyes set them up to sit deep and let Elneny and Coquelin have an eternity of time on the ball. He must've been trying to plug the gap in between his own CB's and midfield to stop Ozil, Iwobi, Ox finding space between the lines. Trouble is when Rodwell and Ndong are the two players expected to pick talents like Ozil up it will never work. He's also got a massive problem that the whole squad bar Defoe lacks confidence massively. That game coming up against Hull is huge for their season.

 

 

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Caulkin:

 

Sunderland could not have chosen a more appropriate match sponsor than a company that specialises in “waste recycling solutions”. Saturday, truly, was a load of rubbish. No Premier League team have started a season as wretchedly as they have, a fact that David Moyes agreed was “damning”, but the stench permeating every depressed inch of the Stadium of Light is a familiar one. It smells like last year. It smells like forever.

 

When Arsenal scored their fourth goal, a third inside a blistering, bludgeoning six minutes and 20 seconds, home supporters chanted, “We’re f***ing s***”. As the ground emptied — quickly, comprehensively — it felt less like a watershed moment than a clammy, loveless embrace. Ten league matches without victory is abysmal, but that is only one worse than at this stage last season, when they could at least rely on beating Newcastle United to break the run.

 

“S***” was the word deployed by Sam Allardyce last December when he was asked to encapsulate Sunderland’s form, which consisted of five consecutive defeats. At that stage, they were seven points adrift of safety, which is precisely the position they find themselves in now, so if this is rubbish, then it is the same old rubbish. But it is also different; different manager, some different players and a different shade of similarity.

 

However hard they try, however much they flail, however much they lurch between solid and questionable logic, Sunderland cannot escape this cycle. Part of it is endemic, a habit of losing, a poor squad, too much churn in the dugout and dressing room, awful, awful, awful decisions, few saleable assets, limited investment and room for manoeuvre and a lack of identity, and there are common mishaps such as injury and form.

 

Some of it, though, is specific to Moyes and if the statistics offer ballast for those who feel it more keenly this time, so too does the context. When Allardyce kept Sunderland up in May, they were propelled by momentum. For once, they had enjoyed a positive transfer window, signing Jan Kirchhoff, Wahbi Khazri and Lamine Koné and although they finished 17th, they were beaten only once in their final 11 matches.

 

Propulsion was sucked away by Allardyce’s departure to England — another triumph. Moyes, Sunderland’s seventh manager or head coach in five years, was appointed for the long-term and given a four-year contract, which felt like a statement, but what happens if the long term is the wrong term? What happens if Moyes, a good manager and patently a decent man, is simply not the right fit? What happens if fans cannot love him?

 

Koné attempted to join Everton in the summer, Kirchhoff is unfit and Khazri barely resembles a footballer. Of Sunderland’s seven substitutes, six were signed by Moyes, and only two new additions started (Steven Pienaar, a free transfer, is 34). Niall Quinn, who has chaired, managed and played for the club, spoke of a “death by a thousand cuts . . . I just don’t think they’re confident enough to play the passing game that David Moyes wants.”

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Sunlun with a full strength 11 in my opinion would stay up...just.

 

Borini.kirching.clatters would stiffen the spine but only just.

 

However the shite they have bought and the negativity of the manager has lead them down the abyss, the bitterness on their board to us is because they know in around six months time we more than likely will be swapping places and the arrogance of being being in the PL is their only solice atm.

 

Remember the flag they hung off the bridge.

 

Remember the fly by, not once but twice.

 

Just remember in six months time and give them some shit back.small time? Maybe but im praying it comes true.

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I'm staggered by this thread. Seriously, I don't think the reality has hit them just how downright awful their squad is. There are weak players everywhere, Pickford is getting a lot of praise, but it's the Rob Elliot effect, get stuck been a terrible defence make a few highlight saves and suddenly your player of the season, his all round game looks suspect to me from the small amount I've seen of him, that's understandable though as he's only young. Defoe is 105 and quite frankly showing it at the moment, he's their only goal threat, that's why everyone thinks he's so great, but he's not, he's really is not, just the only player in that team that can score. Goal at the weekend was a penalty. The rest of them, honestly it is about as weak as I have ever seen in the PL. I read 4 clubs were going to pay them 10 million for Kone, ffs do these clubs not watch the games ?  It's all about how they finished last season with one more point than us, so naturally they are a better team. Long may their heads stay firmly planted in the sand hopefully the management and ownership think that when the 3 or so players (which is now according to them half a team) return from injuries they'll be fine.

 

We had a better team and squad then them last year but were managed by an absolute kretin for the bulk of the season, while they employed some 17th place specialist in October and had teams like Everton rolling over for them in the run in. Since then they've actually weakened their squad in the window, they've bought absolutely no quality, lost the key loans they had, while we have managed to get rid of the deadwood, replaced the lost players with quality and filled out our squad. Our players are getting way better coached and are in way better condition. Yes we are playing in a weaker division but I have no doubt in my mind that if you swap situations we would be doing better than 2 points from 10 games in the PL with our team while they wouldn't be anywhere near our 34 from 15, with the shambles of a squad they've put together. Crossing paths at the end of the season, if it happens, will be so sweet, lets hope nothing changes between now and then.

 

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/this-place-really-does-have-an-inferiority-complex.1292041/

 

That Dangertosser is the bitterest arsehole in the world!

 

that thread is fucking terrifying :lol:

We're not pissing the league according to some numpty over there, and others are saying we are only doing what we should as we've spent so much money. That'd be the negative £30m net spend, I suppose :lol:

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I've no intention of laughing when they get relegated, nor would I endorse any banners or fly overs. Let's not stoop to their level.

 

When they are relegated and we are back where we belong, I will be thankful that everything in the universe has found its correct place, then I will swifty forget all about them and their shitty small time club.

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Sunlun with a full strength 12 in my opinion would stay up...just.

 

Borini.kirching.clatters would stiffen the spine but only just.

 

However the s**** they have bought and the negativity of the manager has lead them down the abyss, the bitterness on their board to us is because they know in around six months time we more than likely will be swapping places and the arrogance of being being in the PL is their only solice atm.

 

Remember the flag they hung off the bridge.

 

Remember the fly by, not once but twice.

 

Just remember in six months time and give them some s*** back.small time? Maybe but im praying it comes true.

 

I'll remember, that's for sure. Payback time come May should all go well.

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They swear blind that Rafa isn't a top manager, they just cant admit we have something good going on, I was happy to admit that I thought Moyes was a good manager and would have taken him had Rafa not came in, why must they delude themselves into thinking everything NUFC is s*** :lol:

 

They lie to themselves to try and make themselves feel better. It's as simple as that. They know what is just around the corner for them and us...

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I literally can not make sense of what qualifies you to be a mag, or a mackem pretending to be a mag on there. :lol:  its beyond any logic, any clues anyone?

 

rtg reminds me of the quote from psychiatrist episode of Fawlty towers ' theres enough material there for a whole conference'

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I did laugh at the Newcastle fan questioning them that if we're too good for The Championship but too shit for the Premier League, are we expected to play in purgatory. :lol:

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They swear blind that Rafa isn't a top manager, they just cant admit we have something good going on, I was happy to admit that I thought Moyes was a good manager and would have taken him had Rafa not came in, why must they delude themselves into thinking everything NUFC is s*** :lol:

 

They lie to themselves to try and make themselves feel better. It's as simple as that. They know what is just around the corner for them and us...

 

The whole Rafa sent us down crap they spout is so factless it's beyond comprehension. He had 10 games to sort out the horrific mess that McClaren had left him. We went the last 6 games unbeaten, including beating Spuds 5-1 and a draw at Liverpool, both teams were in form and had something to play for. Unlike the disgraceful show Everton put on at their stadium , which confirmed their safety. The fat git was appointed in October FFS, he had practically all season to sort out their mess and still only just hit 17th.

 

Credit though where it is due, he bought well for the short term in January (those same signings are looking pretty suspect this season, one too fat to play, another oft injured and only average when he was fit and the third has probably been the worst CB in the PL this season) and their run of form in the run in was incredible, especially when compared to their form over the rest of the season. This is why they are so anxious to get his underhand dealing back. Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a football club again in my opinion, a one year ban from all forms should be the minimum he got.

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