ikri Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 As shit as they are, there's not much money floating around in League One so you'd think they would have too much resource to perform so poorly unfortunately. The players they've given long contracts to on high wages (high relative to their abilities) are going to utterly cripple them if they drop down to League 1. Wages are capped at 60% of turnover in League One and their income is going to drop even further. They'll get something like £45m as a parachute payment next year but even if they've halved last year's wage bill they'll still be pissing away most of that on players like Gibson & Cattermole. They're in a horrendous financial position as is and if they get relegated again, even if they don't go into administration, they could end up being penalised by the Football League for breaching wage rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 they had to go into administration by today, to avoid any penalties being applied to next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 All the hatred juice is being squeezed out of them now. I've noticed it on twitter as well. All the 6 in a row shite theyre coming out with, it's finally dawned on them theyre going down again and are completely fucked so all the hatred is pouring out of them. It's fucking glorious. I shall shower in their hate juice. Is that a very, very early Smiths tune? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 As shit as they are, there's not much money floating around in League One so you'd think they would have too much resource to perform so poorly unfortunately. I think if they do go down they will struggle in that league. First home game will see 10k if that and in the lower leagues you need momentum. A double relegation will be hard to suddenly snap out of. I don’t even think the team they have now would get out of that league. There are some good teams, solid, experienced teams and they will become a scalp for many. Darker days loom for them Would love to agree with you but you only have to look at the teams at the top of L1 this year to understand that there is a significant drop off from the Champo. The bottom three from last year's champo make up 3 of the top 4 spots this year and all have won 20 plus games including Rotherham who were as bad, if not worse than the Mackems are this year. They'll bounce straight back up, most likely but I expect them to be more of a Leeds than a Wolves in terms of making that next leap to back to the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 As shit as they are, there's not much money floating around in League One so you'd think they would have too much resource to perform so poorly unfortunately. I think if they do go down they will struggle in that league. First home game will see 10k if that and in the lower leagues you need momentum. A double relegation will be hard to suddenly snap out of. I don’t even think the team they have now would get out of that league. There are some good teams, solid, experienced teams and they will become a scalp for many. Darker days loom for them Would love to agree with you but you only have to look at the teams at the top of L1 this year to understand that there is a significant drop off from the Champo. The bottom three from last year's champo make up 3 of the top 4 spots this year and all have won 20 plus games including Rotherham who were as bad, if not worse than the Mackems are this year. They'll bounce straight back up, most likely but I expect them to be more of a Leeds than a Wolves in terms of making that next leap to back to the PL. Theres a poster on RTG called Grumpy Old Man who appears to work in the financial sector. He was one of the first to state which way they were headed and has been level headed about their position. Always said administration was unlikely this season andshowed his workings out. Reckons they'll still have enough to be a small financial bully at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 You'd expect them to come back and at the very least finish in the top 6 in League 1 next year. Will be a very long time until they're back in the PL, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 With an identity as a national laughing stock, aye. Every third-rate comedian has the thick, sentimental "jawdee" character getting worked up over nothing as a fall-back for a cheap laugh. Your "identity" is on a par with the boring Brummie and the thieving Scouser- fat, pastie-munching mags hanging around that big grey eyesore like flies around shit, spouting incomprehensible twaddle about "wor beloved toon". That's your identity to most people. You must be so proud. What actually hurts us is that our accents are the same as yours to people outside the area and we get lumped in with you. It hurts to be associated in any way with the kind of people who hold mock funerals for the name of a football ground, who proclaim themselves a "nation" like the Catalan people and can't see how ridiculous that is, people who think they're living in some cultural oasis because woah, there's a big shopping centre over the water and a gallery with nowt of any worth in it... and fuck me if there's not a regional airport close by, there's a thing. More than anything else, Newcastle United and its supporters have held back the North East as a region by sullying its image for outsiders. A region of hard-working, down to earth people who can laugh at themselves has been hijacked over the last 20 years by sanctimonious, humourless, pretentious bores droning on and on about their fucking heritage and their "geordie pride". In your determination to prove that you're the bestest, loyalest, cushtiest fans in all the world, you just give the world the impression that you have got absolutely nothing in your lives, that the only thing that can light up the darkness of your Cruddas Park grief-holes is the chance to weeble about the place dressed like giant mint humbugs grunting, "toon toon black and white army" even though you're on the bus and it's Thursday morning. We hate you because you embarrass us and you embarrass the whole region. Now fuck off. (@DCmackem, 2 Holy shit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Any link for this?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 With an identity as a national laughing stock, aye. Every third-rate comedian has the thick, sentimental "jawdee" character getting worked up over nothing as a fall-back for a cheap laugh. Your "identity" is on a par with the boring Brummie and the thieving Scouser- fat, pastie-munching mags hanging around that big grey eyesore like flies around shit, spouting incomprehensible twaddle about "wor beloved toon". That's your identity to most people. You must be so proud. What actually hurts us is that our accents are the same as yours to people outside the area and we get lumped in with you. It hurts to be associated in any way with the kind of people who hold mock funerals for the name of a football ground, who proclaim themselves a "nation" like the Catalan people and can't see how ridiculous that is, people who think they're living in some cultural oasis because woah, there's a big shopping centre over the water and a gallery with nowt of any worth in it... and fuck me if there's not a regional airport close by, there's a thing. More than anything else, Newcastle United and its supporters have held back the North East as a region by sullying its image for outsiders. A region of hard-working, down to earth people who can laugh at themselves has been hijacked over the last 20 years by sanctimonious, humourless, pretentious bores droning on and on about their fucking heritage and their "geordie pride". In your determination to prove that you're the bestest, loyalest, cushtiest fans in all the world, you just give the world the impression that you have got absolutely nothing in your lives, that the only thing that can light up the darkness of your Cruddas Park grief-holes is the chance to weeble about the place dressed like giant mint humbugs grunting, "toon toon black and white army" even though you're on the bus and it's Thursday morning. We hate you because you embarrass us and you embarrass the whole region. Now fuck off. (@DCmackem, 2 Holy shit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Any link for this?! go to RTG and check any of the last few Derby threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 :lol: https://twitter.com/canterburyjordy/status/976546389772685314?s=21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Has to be fake. Peter Reid ? :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 :lol: https://twitter.com/canterburyjordy/status/976546389772685314?s=21 And yet shortens his name to 'Jordy'. In the words of Alanis Morrisette 'Isn't it ironic, what a dick'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The 6 in a row is a bit of a fly in the ointment like. I'd like us to draw them in the cup and ragdoll them to make up for it, but that whole era for me is defined by Pardew and McClaren, the former being a much bigger enemy to Newcastle than Sunderland have ever been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNGLEGIONNAIRE Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The pent up emotions that will explode on the day when /if we ever draw them in the cup 5, 6 or however many years down the line . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 They are looking likely to go down again and if they do go I'd imagine they'll be in the third tier for a good few years until their finances get sorted out...well if they ever sort their finances out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Are they losing because they're not as good as even the worst teams in the Championship or because they simply don't know how to win and the quality of the opposition is irrelevant? Would they even start picking up wins in League One next season or would they find themselves looking near the bottom of the table after the first five games or so? I'd not be betting any major money on Sunderland beating a League One team in a cup game at the moment. I know that's different but when you're a bigger fish in a smaller pond your first few games in the league have the same feel about them of players wanting a scalp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 tbf, they dont even look like they are playing the same sport as some of the better sides in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 All they have is that little brother 6-in-a-row thing. WE define them. Not being Geordies defines them - not being Mackems. They have no other identity. They need us - and we fucking well don't need them. That burns them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The 6 in a row thing does really annoy me tbh, we had their number for my whole time supporting the club other than about 3 defeats then they kept on beating us once Pardew got involved. One of his many major failings, the prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Peyter Reid? He would have to stay in his dugout to avoid the flying lager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The 6 in a row thing does really annoy me tbh, we had their number for my whole time supporting the club other than about 3 defeats then they kept on beating us once Pardew got involved. One of his many major failings, the prick. For me it's just a matter of maintaining standards. We are better than Sunderland and we should be beating them the majority of the time as was usually the case. Pardew let that slip massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Doesn't help that for certain periods of time when we were good, they weren't even in the same division (94/95, 95/96, 97/98 and 98/99 (although we weren't very good ourselves then), 2003/04). Could easily have done more than 6 in a row in those times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNGLEGIONNAIRE Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The 6 in a row really is just clutching at crumbs of comfort for them now and shouldn't even register as an irritant with us anymore . Their current situation is teetering on catastrophic . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Problem is they'll be reading things like this, seeing how often we mention it and they'll think they're getting to us by constantly bringing it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 probs a sizeable proportion of their fans, say 500. Wake up in the night screaming and crying. The Mrs 'Dont worry the police aren't coming for nonce lovers, its just the football'. Wispers 6 in row over and over til they fall asleep sucking their thumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 In all my years of supporting Newcastle (and there are many) we won more times than we were beaten by Sunderland. Those 6 in a row wins for them were really painful at the time and still annoy me considerably. It will take years (because we will not see them for years) before we can correct the balance and shut them up. However, like the 9 - 1 match in the early 1900's, anything that happens in our favour in the future will be ignored so that they can say that they beat us 6 times in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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