midds Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I honestly couldn't care less if we went down this season as long as we could guarantee Benitez staying on. The fact that he's somehow got this heartless rabble resembling a competent footballing outfit speaks volumes. I'd say keeping Benitez is more important than staying up. Preferably we'd do both obviously but given the choice I'd rather keep him and go down as opposed to stay up and lose him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I honestly couldn't care less if we went down this season as long as we could guarantee Benitez staying on. The fact that he's somehow got this heartless rabble resembling a competent footballing outfit speaks volumes. He's the only reason I want us to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I honestly couldn't care less if we went down this season as long as we could guarantee Benitez staying on. The fact that he's somehow got this heartless rabble resembling a competent footballing outfit speaks volumes. I don't know about you, but I've had a few shit bosses over the years. It's really hard to work your balls off when you know it's pointless because the boss doesn't know what he/she is doing and will manage to turn it all to shit, regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I don't know about you, but I've had a few s*** bosses over the years. It's really hard to work your balls off when you know it's pointless because the boss doesn't know what he/she is doing and will manage to turn it all to s***, regardless. I keep saying that, a bad boss can cause chaos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I couldn't give two fucks if Ashley stays so long as he keeps Rafa, Ashley can just melt into the background and let Rafa take control of everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I don't know about you, but I've had a few shit bosses over the years. It's really hard to work your balls off when you know it's pointless because the boss doesn't know what he/she is doing and will manage to turn it all to shit, regardless. I'm sympathising my balls off here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 He's made our games watchable again. Love the pressing, intensity and aggression he has been able to put into them on just a few games that the cunts before couldn't manage, and he clearly knows his tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 His in game management is fantastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I have no doubt that Rafa will win trophies for NUFC if he sticks around. People always loved to beat us over the head with his "poor" league performance, ignoring the fact that he was concentrating all his resources on the CL (and we were the top-ranked side in Europe—and highly-feared abroad—for a few years). If you don't mind sucking up a relatively mediocre league finish in return for a very strong push for a cup, he's absolutely your man. We get those anyway, 17th will be seen as a good season for us. aye i'm going to suggest we could live with the odd mediocre league finish like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I do actually love him, and I hate Newcastle for it. I was that ally out willing relegation, now I hope and pray we stay up and see him build a future. No doubt even if we do stay up Ashley will go back on his words, think he knows best and force him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I do actually love him, and I hate Newcastle for it. I was that ally out willing relegation, now I hope and pray we stay up and see him build a future. No doubt even if we do stay up Ashley will go back on his words, think he knows best and force him out. Yeah, that's in the contract too, isn't it? Man, this is so Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I couldn't give two fucks if Ashley stays so long as he keeps Rafa, Ashley can just melt into the background and let Rafa take control of everything This. Whether we go down or not, if Benitez stays - I will end my St James self-imposed exile and I will take the bairn too. He offers hope - something that we haven't had since Keegan came back in 2008. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I have posted this earlier - If Rafa stays at Newcastle for 3-5 years you will win trophies. No doubt about it. If Ashley and Charnley wants him to stay, is willing to provide him with the resources he needs to build Newcastle - he will stay at Newcastle whether it is in the premier league or in the Championship. The money is important but I dont think Rafa is 100% about the money. After Istanbul he was the hottest manager in Europe. He could have left us and gone to far more easier jobs in the continent where he would have earned twice the money. The project is as important to him as the salary he earns. He will build your footballing infrastructure - youth team coaching, scouting, diet, physical fitness. For the first time since Sir Bobby Robson - you will have serious technical footballing people (Borrell, Segura) handling all aspects of your club. It will rival or be on par with any other team you see on the continent. Not past players coaching based on reputation and all. He gives 200% and the big question is are the owners willing to match his intensity and passion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Isn't it strange how we all hate managers because they're not Geordies yet not one of us have a bad word to say about Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Isn't it strange how we all hate managers because they're not Geordies yet not one of us have a bad word to say about Rafa. He's from even further south than London too, he should be absolutely despised! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Isn't it strange how we all hate managers because they're not Geordies yet not one of us have a bad word to say about Rafa. No one outside of our fans picks up on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wacko Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Isn't it strange how we all hate managers because they're not Geordies yet not one of us have a bad word to say about Rafa. Only since he's been managing NUFC, like… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I despised Rafa six months ago, like. Now I love him. This is too weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I despised Rafa six months ago, like. Now I love him. This is too weird. Is NUFC your Second team VI ? if so why ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I despised Rafa six months ago, like. Now I love him. This is too weird. Welcome back, 'like'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Good posts Wacko. I think what you've pointed out is why he's perfect for us but not a good option for your Chelsea's and Real's. Exactly. He's a terrible fit for sides full of trophy players. The polar opposite of Del Bosque. The most successful managers there over the last decade + have been Ancelotti, Mourinho and Del Bosque. At their best very good with man management (Jose seems to completely fall out with everyone after a couple years). At a slightly underdog club that's Rafa's best role. If we could get him in the PL for 5 seasons I think we would break our trophy drought. The thought - the possibility - in the face of the odds of this season are crazy. I have no doubt that Rafa will win trophies for NUFC if he sticks around. People always loved to beat us over the head with his "poor" league performance, ignoring the fact that he was concentrating all his resources on the CL (and we were the top-ranked side in Europe—and highly-feared abroad—for a few years). If you don't mind sucking up a relatively mediocre league finish in return for a very strong push for a cup, he's absolutely your man. Yes I used to do that a lot. But then Leicester are going to win the league this season using basically the same formula. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I despised Rafa six months ago, like. Now I love him. This is too weird. Welcome back, 'like'. I've been moving to a new apartment, and it has been a bit of a mess. Also seeing you relegated has been *difficult* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I despised Rafa six months ago, like. Now I love him. This is too weird. Is NUFC your Second team VI ? if so why ? Because N-O. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I despised Rafa six months ago, like. Now I love him. This is too weird. Is NUFC your Second team VI ? if so why ? Because N-O. Yeah, it's your fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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