triggs Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Assuming Rafa stays, if we did no more business between now and when SSN declares that the window slams shut, do we stay up ? I think we do personally, because of Rafa. There is a lot of rubbish at the bottom of the PL and although our squad right now is not fit for purpose, with a quality manager we'll get enough points to survive, all depends on Rafa staying though. I doubt very much we are done, but if the start of the window is indicative of how we are to go this summer, then surely Rafa will not stick around. I did warn everyone on here about the statement Ashley made right after promotion, that it was more worrying than anything else in the fact that he mentioned nothing about the TV money or previous profits made on transfers. If you look at our business so far it would back up that the TV money is going into running the club, while the 30 million profit last year seems to have gone towards paying for the expense of dropping. We have taken in 9.25 million from Thauvin, and spent 6.5mill on Atsu and 8.5 mill on Lejuene, factor in agent fees and we are around 5 million in deficit as of now. That is probably paid for by the new sponsorship money. I wouldn't be surprised if we are "sell before we buy right now", and that we will see a fair few loan deals. Not sure why Rafa agreed to staying on these conditions and so quickly, if this proves correct, which I hope it isn't, then he'll be gone before the season starts, and we'll end up bringing Pardew back or something worse. Only NUFC could fuck things up like this ! The one good sign is that the pictures in training show Rafa to be in a pretty good mood, he doesn't look like he's on the edge, maybe there are a bunch of signings close but seriously when you see teams like Huddersfield completing a bunch of signings and we struggling over months to get one through the door, there is something not quite right, memories of the inactivity in January are still fresh. I'm not sure. We only drew with Hull last season when we were in good form and they were in their worst form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Assuming Rafa stays, if we did no more business between now and when SSN declares that the window slams shut, do we stay up ? I think we do personally, because of Rafa. There is a lot of rubbish at the bottom of the PL and although our squad right now is not fit for purpose, with a quality manager we'll get enough points to survive, all depends on Rafa staying though. I doubt very much we are done, but if the start of the window is indicative of how we are to go this summer, then surely Rafa will not stick around. I did warn everyone on here about the statement Ashley made right after promotion, that it was more worrying than anything else in the fact that he mentioned nothing about the TV money or previous profits made on transfers. If you look at our business so far it would back up that the TV money is going into running the club, while the 30 million profit last year seems to have gone towards paying for the expense of dropping. We have taken in 9.25 million from Thauvin, and spent 6.5mill on Atsu and 8.5 mill on Lejuene, factor in agent fees and we are around 5 million in deficit as of now. That is probably paid for by the new sponsorship money. I wouldn't be surprised if we are "sell before we buy right now", and that we will see a fair few loan deals. Not sure why Rafa agreed to staying on these conditions and so quickly, if this proves correct, which I hope it isn't, then he'll be gone before the season starts, and we'll end up bringing Pardew back or something worse. Only NUFC could f*** things up like this ! The one good sign is that the pictures in training show Rafa to be in a pretty good mood, he doesn't look like he's on the edge, maybe there are a bunch of signings close but seriously when you see teams like Huddersfield completing a bunch of signings and we struggling over months to get one through the door, there is something not quite right, memories of the inactivity in January are still fresh. Rafa would probably leave though and I wouldn't blame him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 f***ing get in there, we are now stepping up talks! Climb that ladder Charnley, climb that ladder. have to take it steady though, he's only got little legs. FFS, Charnley man. Just burst out laughing in a meeting! (...as you can guess from fact I was checking N-O, not much to laugh at in the room!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Bye Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Yep, it's looking mighty ominous at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 f***ing get in there, we are now stepping up talks! Climb that ladder Charnley, climb that ladder. have to take it steady though, he's only got little legs. FFS, Charnley man. The lad who shot that video lost his job if I recall Anyone who can find the original on Twitter the comments about the one on the ladder (I think) having an affair with someone are comedy gold. No winners shall we say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 In my heart I reckon we will sign just enough players for Rafa to stay. Can't see us getting his top targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Would love to know how many options Rafa had and for how many positions. Given how meticulous he seems to be, I'm guessing there would be all kind of permutations on there too. If he had a couple of loans as preference for key positions (e.g. Striker and centre-mid/attacking-mid, let's say Abrahams and Loftus-Cheek) and couple of high price options for other positions (e.g. Cairney) who have now fallen through, I wonder how much mixing and matching he/they are having to do? And how far down the list they will have to go before we get to someone who wants to come and is available at the 'right' price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 This has been a pathetic transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Does make you wonder what that lawyer mate of Ashley is doing at the club. No signings in January and suddenly even a deal for a player with a known fairly low release clause takes a million years to complete Something's not right at NUFC again and it stinks of the same obstructionist tactics the fat man tried with KK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Might as well start discussing the merits of travelling by different modes of transport again because it doesn't look like anything else will be happening. Ww3w32sfwaFw Good timing on the old thread dying. Rafalution. Old thread here: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,94532.0.html Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Might as well start discussing the merits of travelling by different modes of transport again because it doesn't look like anything else will be happening. Ww3w32sfwaFw Good timing on the old thread dying. Rafalution. Old thread here: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,94532.0.html Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Good password mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Wwl34 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Someone on the drink already? Don't blame him tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Wish everyone would calm down, everythings perfect and there's no need to worry, simply because Rafa's still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Craig Hope dropping the hammer of thor on every link we talked about this morning in the chronicle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Craig No Hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Yet another day of nothing, and it will be another week of fucking Nada.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 It's pitiful how far we are behind other clubs, mind. All through self-imposed disadvantages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 It's pitiful how far we are behind other clubs, mind. All through self-imposed disadvantages. Absolutely, the most annoying aspect of this is the fact that this is totally avoidable. Ashley seems incredibly risk adverse for a person who's said to be a gambler and made millions in business by taking the odd chance no doubt. It' all safety first strategy with NUFC, there is zero sign we'll ever speculate to accumulate under him, this is preciely the time to do just that, spend that TV money in advance, bring in a couple of quality players, keep your world class manager happy and maybe just maybe the club prospers and in the end your investment will yields bigger dividends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Both Murphy twins appear to be solid talents. Can't remember which one scored a long distance cracker in one of Norwich's early league fixtures last season. Despite the "he's not for sale" response (from Norwich) an 8m offer seems a bit low-ball to me, almost designed to fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Not saying he's wrong in this case, but wasn't Hope well connected to the McClaren regime? I thought he lost his main source when Rafa came in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 He went after McClaren brutally more than once. I don't think he was especially well connected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Maybe it wasn't McClaren. I just remember a period of time where he was first with every story and everything was true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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