astraguy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 People keep talking about when we brought players in late last summer but didn't Rafa have a holiday then deal with it? unlike this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Manchester United have signed striker Romelu Lukaku from Everton for a whopping £75million, in a deal in which Newcastle United fans can learn a lot from. Yeah, pipe down bedwetters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 For what it's worth I think there's more to it. Having extra investment (or a partial buy out, or even a full takeover) would never happen in the short space of time since those reports surfaced. There was serious interest reported. Most on here don't know the ins and outs of m & a's but the first thing to happen is an NDA signed by all parties. That means nothing can be talked about, leaked etc.. If someone is serious about investing and doesn't want to hold up business operations, a letter of intent would be signed. This is not legally binding though. Then due diligence would begin. This bit is key. No major decisions can be made while this is happening. We did indeed sign LeJeune but we may have had a previous agreement that the agreed transfer had to complete by a certain point or they would back out. The point is, whatever the final offer is after due diligence could vary greatly from the figure mentioned in the letter of intent. If it's investment. This could be difference between signing a bunch of Murphy's or players of the Samaris and Carvalho standard. Merely speculating but it's the same press who are reporting that Rafa is unhappy that reported on the Chinese investment. Why trust one story and not the other? while i'm obviously not saying you're right this scenario would explain a lot aye It's the only explanation that makes sense (if anything makes sense in ashley owned era). Tend to agree. Even by Ashley's standards meeting Rafa 2 months ago and coming to an agreement then purposefully going out of his way to renege on that agreement seems a stretch to me. Either there's something in this theory or they've shat their pants at the prices in the market big time and are trying to adjust. Imo. It would explain why no incoming player has his own thread, that's when I know it's serious. Also Rafa hasn't said a word this pre season is he patiently waiting for new investment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Patience can pay off NUFC fans, just look at Series 8 Episode 3 of Only Fools & Horses when Del & Rodney finally become millionaires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 For what it's worth I think there's more to it. Having extra investment (or a partial buy out, or even a full takeover) would never happen in the short space of time since those reports surfaced. There was serious interest reported. Most on here don't know the ins and outs of m & a's but the first thing to happen is an NDA signed by all parties. That means nothing can be talked about, leaked etc.. If someone is serious about investing and doesn't want to hold up business operations, a letter of intent would be signed. This is not legally binding though. Then due diligence would begin. This bit is key. No major decisions can be made while this is happening. We did indeed sign LeJeune but we may have had a previous agreement that the agreed transfer had to complete by a certain point or they would back out. The point is, whatever the final offer is after due diligence could vary greatly from the figure mentioned in the letter of intent. If it's investment. This could be difference between signing a bunch of Murphy's or players of the Samaris and Carvalho standard. Merely speculating but it's the same press who are reporting that Rafa is unhappy that reported on the Chinese investment. Why trust one story and not the other? while i'm obviously not saying you're right this scenario would explain a lot aye It's the only explanation that makes sense (if anything makes sense in ashley owned era). Tend to agree. Even by Ashley's standards meeting Rafa 2 months ago and coming to an agreement then purposefully going out of his way to renege on that agreement seems a stretch to me. Either there's something in this theory or they've shat their pants at the prices in the market big time and are trying to adjust. Imo. It would explain why no incoming player has his own thread, that's when I know it's serious. Also Rafa hasn't said a word this pre season is he patiently waiting for new investment? Might be all shite, probably is, I'm more inclined towards the second option if I'm honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 For what it's worth I think there's more to it. Having extra investment (or a partial buy out, or even a full takeover) would never happen in the short space of time since those reports surfaced. There was serious interest reported. Most on here don't know the ins and outs of m & a's but the first thing to happen is an NDA signed by all parties. That means nothing can be talked about, leaked etc.. If someone is serious about investing and doesn't want to hold up business operations, a letter of intent would be signed. This is not legally binding though. Then due diligence would begin. This bit is key. No major decisions can be made while this is happening. We did indeed sign LeJeune but we may have had a previous agreement that the agreed transfer had to complete by a certain point or they would back out. The point is, whatever the final offer is after due diligence could vary greatly from the figure mentioned in the letter of intent. If it's investment. This could be difference between signing a bunch of Murphy's or players of the Samaris and Carvalho standard. Merely speculating but it's the same press who are reporting that Rafa is unhappy that reported on the Chinese investment. Why trust one story and not the other? while i'm obviously not saying you're right this scenario would explain a lot aye It's the only explanation that makes sense (if anything makes sense in ashley owned era). Then surely Rafa wouldn't be getting frustrated, and more importantly the stories about his future wouldn't keep surfacing because it seems clear to me that he is the one leaking this to the media to put pressure on the club. There will be a lot of journo's who typically like to wind up Toon fans because they know we bite.. but we're dallying as a club and risk getting left even further behind. Also Mike Ashley has previous when it comes to feigning selling the club. It could also be this Barnes bloke just hasnt got a clue when it comes to negotiating deals for players if it is indeed left to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Patience can pay off NUFC fans, just look at Series 8 Episode 3 of Only Fools & Horses when Del & Rodney finally become millionaires. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Not sure who Craig Johns is, but he's written an absolutely mental piece on the Chronicle saying that our patience can pay off, as proven by (and I'm not making this up) Lukaku's move to Man United. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/romelu-lukakus-manchester-united-transfer-13311842 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Apologies for the spoiler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'd not get my hopes up that the reason we're not doing deals is because we're at a stand-still due to a takeover or cash investment and a quiet period during some heavy due diligence. The far too obvious answer is we're being tight as fuck with the money and Lee is having difficulty getting these deals done with that fixer fella also breathing down on him. Again, one of those things I'd rather be wrong and some investment comes in and the unnecessary road blocks are moved. These guys are guilt until proven innocent in my mind, and will be until Ashley fucks off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Newcastle only need look at rivals Sunderland to see the damage that paying too much on players can do. Silly transfer fees and ridiculous wages have left Sunderland in huge debt due to being unable to move players on. That came to a head last season, with not enough money in the pot for David Moyes to sign the players the Black Cats needed to survive. Need to be careful we don't do a Leeds Sunderland. Another excellent analogy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Not sure who Craig Johns is, but he's written an absolutely mental piece on the Chronicle saying that our patience can pay off, as proven by (and I'm not making this up) Lukaku's move to Man United. After Ryder and Waugh there seems to be a little team of folk that are tasked with writing any old waffle for the website. There's a continuing stream of some absolute guff nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Newcastle only need look at rivals Sunderland to see the damage that paying too much on players can do. Silly transfer fees and ridiculous wages have left Sunderland in huge debt due to being unable to move players on. That came to a head last season, with not enough money in the pot for David Moyes to sign the players the Black Cats needed to survive. Need to be careful we don't do a Leeds Sunderland. Another excellent analogy. Take inspiration from Man Utd's £75m signing whilst cautiously avoiding those bloody purchases. Mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midstoon Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Another transfer that will go tits up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 NUFC 360? Twitter bullshit thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Look forward to us being linked with him for the next 6 weeks until he signs for someone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Supposedly some positive Rafa quotes re transfers in the press tomorrow morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 NUFC 360? Twitter bullshit thread? It's France Football tbf, still probably bullshit like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Supposedly some positive Rafa quotes re transfers in the press tomorrow morning. Those not just the Ryder ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 One of the breast, that lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Rumour re Ndiaye (26), to us or West Ham. He plays attacking (mainly), defensive (25% of time) and centre mid (occasionally) for Osmanlispor. Whoscored.com list his strengths as dribbling and tackling, scored 7 goals, plus few assists. Rated 12 best (all positions) in Turkish league on their stats system (7.2/10 average rating); which if it means anything is probably better than it sounds given he plays for a poor side. Seems an all rounder, but hardly a signing (if it happens) that will get pulses racing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Won't take long to nip that one in the bud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/10/rafa-benitez-demands-newcastle-improve-offer-england-u21-international/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 The presence of Justin Barnes, an abrasive lieutenant of Ashley, is also a complicating factor as he in charge of the club’s finances. :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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