toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 If we let Shelvey leave we have three options for central mid. Saivet is off and Colback is never playing for us again. If anything we need another two in. The choice of Hayden, Diame and Merino for the rest of the season, if all fit, is scary as shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 If we let Shelvey leave we have three options for central mid. Saivet is off and Colback is never playing for us again. If anything we need another two in. The choice of Hayden, Diame and Merino for the rest of the season, if all fit, is scary as shit. it's not that scary tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Isn't Callum Wilson the lad who's been injured for the last two seasons or something? Aye - hardly played due to serious injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Some strange opinions on here about Shelvey like. He has his flaws, but nee fucking way should we be selling him in this window. If we stay up and you want to sell him/get someone else in during summer, then I can see the logic there. But not fucking now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Selling Shelvey. He's a mental liability but he's also kinda sorta our best player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Chronic - might be true about Voldemort: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 If we let Shelvey leave we have three options for central mid. Saivet is off and Colback is never playing for us again. If anything we need another two in. The choice of Hayden, Diame and Merino for the rest of the season, if all fit, is scary as s***. it's not that scary tbh. Clearly is like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Isn't Callum Wilson the lad who's been injured for the last two seasons or something? Aye - hardly played due to serious injuries. Must be some player to be still commanding a £20m fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I think it's a shame if true, some may laugh, but imo he's one of the best passers of a ball in the league; and whilst his stats aren't anything special, his contribution in launching attacks for us will be a huge miss and is possibly being underestimated by those happy to see him the back of him. We aren't in the championship anymore and if you think hes one of the best in the premier league youre off your rocker man I believe he is one of the best passers in the league, nothing more I can say really. It's an opinion formed whilst watching a lot of premier league football - not many even attempt the passes he does never mind pull them off on a regular basis. If you break down his range of passing and analyse it, yes he can hit a long ball into feet and space and exceptionally well, but so could most if afforded time and space. It seems to be his one stand out attribute and that type of passer is pretty much always going to be ineffective in creating chances and goals at this level especially for a struggling team because the game is too fast and played at a higher tempo than that. In many ways he can actually slow our game down and again I’d rather see a much snappier passer even if it’s juts 10 and 20 yard quick balls played into feet or space than constant Hollywood balls. My main grip with him, however, is he is so immobile and seems shagged father 60 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 IF he can be replaced I have zero problems selling him. His good games are few and far between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Aye all about replacing him with better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Shelvey has probably pissed off Rafa with the daft sendings off. Lack of goals and assists this season in the league won't help either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Being able to pull off hollywood balls now and again doesn't make you a great passer. It's about having a range of passing and playing the right ball at the right time. Shelvey certainly has good technique, but his choices are often abysmal, meaning he's poor at setting the tempo of a game. He has a multitude of weaknesses as a central midfielder beyond that, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Hope the Shelvey rumours are bollocks. He hasn't had a great season by any stretch - frustrating to watch more than anything else - but he's still one of our best players and you can see he has a huge influence in organising others on the pitch. I get a bit frustrated how many people fall back to "hollywood balls" because a lot of those long diagonal passes help get us further up the pitch and turning the opposition. The fee seems like peanuts in the current market too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Replacing Shelvey should be a piece of piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 surely atleast £15m for the baldy liability? clearly we're being mugged if its only £12m. chuck in Hernandez then we have a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I think it's a shame if true, some may laugh, but imo he's one of the best passers of a ball in the league; and whilst his stats aren't anything special, his contribution in launching attacks for us will be a huge miss and is possibly being underestimated by those happy to see him the back of him. While I can understand why people haven't warmed to him -it's hard to like a guy who looks like a parody Bond villain who sneers at children- I really don't understand why people don't rate Shelvey. He's an extremely effective passer of the ball with a wand for a foot and one of only 2 or 3 (and I'm being generous) Newcastle players who has the ability to create genuine goal scoring opportunities out of nothing. He also seems to have a certain intelligence to his passing, he can see things on the pitch that not many of our players can. He may not be massively suited to playing in 2 man midfield and yes he's had a couple of silly reds this season but the way people seem to rave about Merino while undervaluing Shelvey is quite an absurd phenomenon on this forum. 12m is pennies on the dollar for him, it really is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Whist there's no argument about his dodgy nappa, how people can argue that he`s not a top midfielder is beyond me. Its not just the accuracy of his passing but the vision to see the pass. As said earlier, without a top quality replacement, you loose Merino then you`ve got what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Nah not having it that Shelvey isn't really good at passing like, he absolutely is, easily the best we have. He's just got some really glaring weaknesses in other parts of his game that make me want to see him replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 If shelvey goes without a "playmaker" replacement we`ll be Championship bound Not really since we are arguably a better team without Shelvey playing anyway. How many goals and assists has Shelvey got so far in the league this season? None. I take your point but that's a much too simple a way to look at it for someone in Shelvey's role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 If we let Shelvey leave we have three options for central mid. Saivet is off and Colback is never playing for us again. If anything we need another two in. The choice of Hayden, Diame and Merino for the rest of the season, if all fit, is scary as s***. it's not that scary tbh. Sphincter of pure steel. Merino has been half fit, Diame has been half a footballer and while Hayden does a solid job couldn't create a commotion with a flamethrower in a firework factory. Less about the worry of losing Shelvey more about actually replacing him. three options for CM is not enough for any team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 A top midfielder? I think you may be in the minority there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Replacing Shelvey should be a piece of p*ss. You are right, whether we can and do is more of an issue. We really need two new players in the middle if Shelvey leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Callum Wilson went to school with my stepson. Family live 400 yards from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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