SUPERTOON Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 He's been arguably our best defender, however the reaction when he signed was pretty fair based on how he had played for villa, and the Villa fans themselves saying how bad he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The whinging in this thread looking a bit stupid now. That penalty aside, he's been excellent. Aye. It's almost as if Rafa Benitez is a better judge of a player than some of the lads on here. I'll see your Ciaran Clark. And raise you Jack Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Been very pleasantly surprised with him. Going from Captain Fistpumps and a Colo who couldn't give less of a fuck to this guy and Hanley, been night and day. Just hope Clark doesn't turn back into a turd at the PL level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The whinging in this thread looking a bit stupid now. That penalty aside, he's been excellent. Aye. It's almost as if Rafa Benitez is a better judge of a player than some of the lads on here. I'll see your Ciaran Clark. And raise you Jack Colback. Honestly think Rafa sees him as no more than a workhorse, just a body he can throw out there to give Hayden a rest. He'll be upgraded upon at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The whinging in this thread looking a bit stupid now. That penalty aside, he's been excellent. Aye. It's almost as if Rafa Benitez is a better judge of a player than some of the lads on here. I'll see your Ciaran Clark. And raise you Jack Colback. Honestly think Rafa sees him as no more than a workhorse, just a body he can throw out there to give Hayden a rest. He'll be upgraded upon at some point. This'll get quoted in 2019. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Not seen enough of our games to comment too much. But he looks solid and is a no nonsense type. Always loved having a right/left combo at centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 The whinging in this thread looking a bit stupid now. That penalty aside, he's been excellent. Aye. It's almost as if Rafa Benitez is a better judge of a player than some of the lads on here. Who knew. The ghost of Sir Bobby apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 The whinging in this thread looking a bit stupid now. That penalty aside, he's been excellent. I dunno about that, it's a level where Mike Williamson thrived and Clarke was judged on his errors at a higher level. Those errors still happened and other Villa fans confirmed it. I don't think Brummie was a big fan either. He's been excellent at this level though, no doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Excellent again on Saturday and chipping in with his share of goals as an added bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 The whinging in this thread looking a bit stupid now. That penalty aside, he's been excellent. I dunno about that, it's a level where Mike Williamson thrived and Clarke was judged on his errors at a higher level. Those errors still happened and other Villa fans confirmed it. I don't think Brummie was a big fan either. He's been excellent at this level though, no doubt about that. Aye. Credit where it's due. He's been really good for us. Previous opinions were made when he was in the PL.. it might only apply... in the PL. It's why i'm cringing a bit about the Gayle and Shelvey for England talk. It's another thing to do it in the PL totally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 The whinging in this thread looking a bit stupid now. That penalty aside, he's been excellent. I dunno about that, it's a level where Mike Williamson thrived and Clarke was judged on his errors at a higher level. Those errors still happened and other Villa fans confirmed it. I don't think Brummie was a big fan either. He's been excellent at this level though, no doubt about that. Aye. Credit where it's due. He's been really good for us. Previous opinions were made when he was in the PL.. it might only apply... in the PL. It's why i'm cringing a bit about the Gayle and Shelvey for England talk. It's another thing to do it in the PL totally. Who the hell is it wanting them for England though? It's not the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Shelvey already has a handful of caps for England and did well enough, like. His consistency was an issue but he has looked a top class Premiership player in fits and spurts. I cannot recall ever noticing him much but by all accounts Clark was awful in the Premiership, I hope it was just an age thing combined with playing in a poor squad, would love him to make the step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Thing is with Clark, he was in a very poor team devoid of confidence, he's taken a step down under an world class manager and looks a lot better albeit at a lower level. It's unfair to judge him as not able to take that step up until we see what he's capable of under the right management and training. Clearly he was poor last year but how much is contributed to the player and how much to other external factors is yet to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Much of this will need to be revisited when (if) we make it back up to the PL and these players develop under Rafa and his staff's coaching. Some of these players played under crap managers here, Palace, Villa etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 It's unfair to judge him as not able to take that step up until we see what he's capable of under the right management and training. Nobody's doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I put him as a DM in FIFA, and he's killing it. Sort it out, Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Been very pleasantly surprised with him. Going from Captain Fistpumps and a Colo who couldn't give less of a f*** to this guy and Hanley, been night and day. Just hope Clark doesn't turn back into a turd at the PL level. Urgh ... Colo and Taylor man. Had completely wiped these two from my mind. What a horrific pairing they were together. Damned depressing stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I put him as a DM in FIFA, and he's killing it. Sort it out, Rafa. I've done that and you're right, he's shit hot. Even finding time to breakthrough the opponent's back line to create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Been very pleasantly surprised with him. Going from Captain Fistpumps and a Colo who couldn't give less of a f*** to this guy and Hanley, been night and day. Just hope Clark doesn't turn back into a turd at the PL level. Urgh ... Colo and Taylor man. Had completely wiped these two from my mind. What a horrific pairing they were together. Damned depressing stuff. And Mike Williamson as the alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Been very pleasantly surprised with him. Going from Captain Fistpumps and a Colo who couldn't give less of a f*** to this guy and Hanley, been night and day. Just hope Clark doesn't turn back into a turd at the PL level. Urgh ... Colo and Taylor man. Had completely wiped these two from my mind. What a horrific pairing they were together. Damned depressing stuff. They were superb together in 11-12 until Taylor got injured! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I put him as a DM in FIFA, and he's killing it. Sort it out, Rafa. I've done that and you're right, he's s*** hot. Even finding time to breakthrough the opponent's back line to create. *digital dab & nod* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackandWhite Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I put him as a DM in FIFA, and he's killing it. Sort it out, Rafa. I've done that and you're right, he's s*** hot. Even finding time to breakthrough the opponent's back line to create. *digital dab & nod* I also put him DM in fifa and he's now 78 ovr and an absolute tank Be interesting to see how he'd do there irl but for now his form at CB is going great so if it's not broke......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Very good start for the lad. I hope he can keep a consistent level. Looks like a defender who'll get 4-5 goals a season - always useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Along with Rafa & Gayle, our best signing of the summer by some distance so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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