Mikky Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, triggs said: Lewandowski also barely played in a big game all season. Was injured when they got knocked out in the CL quarters and did pretty well with a terrible Poland team in the summer. It just wasn't a stellar year overall This - Lewa was no:1 in 2020 and should have had the recognition he truly deserved - 2021 was Messi, simple as Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 3 hours ago, triggs said: Lewandowski also barely played in a big game all season. Was injured when they got knocked out in the CL quarters and did pretty well with a terrible Poland team in the summer. It just wasn't a stellar year overall 64 goals including breaking the all time league record is pretty stellar to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Alexia won the women's Ballon D'Or, she's the first women's football player which I have followed somewhat closely since she first burst into scene. Chuffed for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Salah or Kante for me. In my entirely "blinkered because I only watch English and German football" eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Messi was indeed the best player in La Liga last season, by a significant margin too. Wether this and winning with Argentina is enough to merit the win, it's debatable. But imho there weren't that many strong candidates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastician Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Village Idiot said: Alexia won the women's Ballon D'Or, she's the first women's football player which I have followed somewhat closely since she first burst into scene. Chuffed for her. Is Zatie Zelem any good? She a women player I've followed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Plastician said: Is Zatie Zelem any good? She a women player I've followed. I only follow Barça's team and the international tournaments, but her name doesn't ring a bell. Googling her she's not even been capped by England at a senior level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastician Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Nobody has been that great this year, so let's give it to Messi anyway - that seems the approach. but muh, he Copa America. The comedown from the Messi/Ronaldo era was always going to be hard to be negotiated - I can understand Modric, but this is taking the piss. Lewandowsi beating Muller's record, for years being best striker in the world ... (aside from Ronaldo) Even looking at starting line up in the Copa fnal I'd say Emiliano Martínez and Taro Martínez both had better season than Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastician Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Am I looking looking at this whole thing wrong, but is having a single player being lorded 'best in the World' quite boring? In Xavi's last season at Barca, I'd be more excited when Xavi was coming on for the last 15/20 min - I'd watch him; watch him never fuck up a pass. Same was with Iniesta. Wasn't at all bothered with the MSN palaver. 2021 now proves personal recognition is most important - the 'Brand' has become important. Ballon'dor used to be something, this years it's reinforced it's more than a PR stunt. If there is somewhere a 12-15 year old lad in our academy somewhere that could one day become become Ballon'd'Or - in 10-15 years being told you are the best Footballer Player in The World will mean nothing. Edited November 30, 2021 by Plastician Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 never mind the Messi/Lewandowski debate…how the fuck has Mount come 19th?! 1 - Lionel Messi 2 - Robert Lewandowski 3 - Jorginho 4 - Karim Benzema 5 - N'Golo Kante 6 - Cristiano Ronaldo 7 - Mohamed Salah 8 - Kevin De Bruyne 9 - Kylian Mbappe 10 - Gianluigi Donnarumma 11 - Erling Haaland 12 - Romelu Lukaku 13 - Giorgio Chiellini 14 - Leonardo Bonucci 15 - Raheem Sterling 16 - Neymar 17 - Luis Suarez 18 - Simon Kjaer 19 - Mason Mount 20 - Riyad Mahrez 21 - Lautaro Martinez = Bruno Fernandes 23 - Harry Kane 24 - Pedri 25 - Phil Foden 26 - Gerard Moreno = Nicolo Barella = Ruben Dias 29 - Luka Modric = Cesar Azpilicueta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, Manxst said: never mind the Messi/Lewandowski debate…how the fuck has Mount come 19th?! 1 - Lionel Messi 2 - Robert Lewandowski 3 - Jorginho 4 - Karim Benzema 5 - N'Golo Kante 6 - Cristiano Ronaldo 7 - Mohamed Salah 8 - Kevin De Bruyne 9 - Kylian Mbappe 10 - Gianluigi Donnarumma 11 - Erling Haaland 12 - Romelu Lukaku 13 - Giorgio Chiellini 14 - Leonardo Bonucci 15 - Raheem Sterling 16 - Neymar 17 - Luis Suarez 18 - Simon Kjaer 19 - Mason Mount 20 - Riyad Mahrez 21 - Lautaro Martinez = Bruno Fernandes 23 - Harry Kane 24 - Pedri 25 - Phil Foden 26 - Gerard Moreno = Nicolo Barella = Ruben Dias 29 - Luka Modric = Cesar Azpilicueta Part of a Champions League winning midfield, and is generally pretty decent? Hardly a surprise he's in the list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, 54 said: Part of a Champions League winning midfield, and is generally pretty decent? Hardly a surprise he's in the list. Not that he’s in the list, but that he’s 19th ahead of Martinez, Fernandes, Foden, Kane, Dias, Pedri etc. Yes, he’s been part of a championship winning squad, but he’s been pretty anonymous imo compared to his colleagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 He scored in the quarter final and the semi final and then set up the only goal in the final. Hard to imagine how he could have been less anonymous when it mattered, for club at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59481660 got to feel for him, doesn’t really stand a chance with the circumstances he finds himself in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I still think Amazon's coverage is great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Agree on Amazon coverage - really good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I like that Football365 are using the term "the Big 3". Big 6 is nonsense; always was. https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-ten-best-players-outside-liverpool-chelsea-manchester-city-west-ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Did I miss something re: Jorginho? Was there some kind of campaign to push him into Ballon d’Or consideration? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Tomato Deuce said: Did I miss something re: Jorginho? Was there some kind of campaign to push him into Ballon d’Or consideration? Not really but all futile player awards are basically awarded on… - Are you Pessi or Penaldo - Did you win a national team tournament - Did you reach the CL final - Do you score important mass viewed goals And for the Ballon D’or…are you somehow related to France. PS. We will fuck the award off if needed to protect our Ligue 1 assets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ben said: I still think Amazon's coverage is great The delays are awful, though. Like what form is the best to watch it as close to live as possible? I was watching on the Amazon Prime app live on Virgin Media and I was still about a minute behind others watching it getting alerts from other people before something happened on my feed. Edited December 1, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joeyt Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 We've got plenty of contenders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) The current player we have on loan being one of them. Where the fuck is he? Doesn't even play for the U23s. Edited December 2, 2021 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sima said: The current player we have on loan being one of them. Where the fuck is he? Doesn't even play for the U23s. We have a player in on loan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, joeyt said: We've got plenty of contenders Doumbia/Gonzalez/Ferreya/Barreca? Cant really comment if they were actually bad as they never played. Bentaleb was pretty poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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