Astroblack Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Bellingham’s dad is a police officer and played either Sunday or non league so he’s had it in built from him for years. Almost captained BD to a Bundesliga at 19 would be some achievement. Dunno why he wasn’t playing toward the end of the season. Probably would have made the difference if he was on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Am I crazy not rate Caicedo. He’s good but massively overrated, a bit like Mitoma. Had a good purple patch but then fell off. Think they’re both outstanding in all honesty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 For 70m Havertz must be in their starting plans. Can only assume it's in some sort of false 9 role? Doenst make sense as they already have Jesus who can link things together really nicely and has shown more in this league. Even Lukaku from Chelsea would be a better option I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Havertz gives me Morata vibes. Will bounce between elite clubs for monster fees scoring 10 goals a season and generally being a bit of a dud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 At BL he was either in and around the ‘10’ position or even playing as n 8. Don’t really understand why they’ve been playing him as a striker. I think he’s a very talented player, personally. He’s in very much the wrong environment at Chelsea though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I find that extremely disrespectful to Morata btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, toon25 said: Tbf, Alli had a heart the size of a fucking ant. Which was pretty much my point: a young man like Bellingham would at this stage give every indication that he'd adapt his game in the event of injury/sign of burnout I think Alli actually has a lot of psychological and mental health issues caused by a very difficult upbringing. He’s got a really difficult relationship with his father. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Wullie said: Havertz gives me Morata vibes. Will bounce between elite clubs for monster fees scoring 10 goals a season and generally being a bit of a dud. Hard to disagree here. Aside from a sterling agent, I can't see the fuss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Theregulars said: I think Alli actually has a lot of psychological and mental health issues caused by a very difficult upbringing. He’s got a really difficult relationship with his father. Putting all personal issues aside though, there is a massive gulf in maturity, application and talent between Bellingham and Alli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, gbandit said: Am I the only one baffled by Arsenal attempting to sign Havertz, especially at the quoted £70m+? I think he’s massively underperformed at Chelsea and that’s partly down to that club being a disaster but also down to him. In the right set up I think he could be a good player but he’s really not worth the fee quoted. 19 goals from 91 premier league games in a side filled with attacking talent. Awful stats He flashes his world class technique in most games, many managers probably think they can get him to that next level. Has all the talent in the world, just needs a good system and a role in that system that gets the most out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Feels like Arsenal should be after Osimhen, have they been linked at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 hours ago, gbandit said: Am I the only one baffled by Arsenal attempting to sign Havertz, especially at the quoted £70m+? I think he’s massively underperformed at Chelsea and that’s partly down to that club being a disaster but also down to him. In the right set up I think he could be a good player but he’s really not worth the fee quoted. 19 goals from 91 premier league games in a side filled with attacking talent. Awful stats Agree, I don't really see where he fits in or how he improves their first XI. Happy for them to spend a chunk of their budget on him, although quite annoying that Chelsea may get back close to what they paid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 hours ago, gbandit said: Am I the only one baffled by Arsenal attempting to sign Havertz, especially at the quoted £70m+? I think he’s massively underperformed at Chelsea and that’s partly down to that club being a disaster but also down to him. In the right set up I think he could be a good player but he’s really not worth the fee quoted. 19 goals from 91 premier league games in a side filled with attacking talent. Awful stats I get it to a point. Havertz was a hell of a prospect at Leverkusen and despite that I wouldn't say he ever consistently played in the role Chelsea have had him in. If Arteta is doing this to restore him as an AM or RW then it takes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Bundesliga is no standard to go on. Sancho did well there. Havertz, Werner. It’s too hit and miss. Haaland did well but he had a 10 goal season in the Champions League. No doubts about NKunku either as he’s proven at Champions League level. Dzeko - CL qualifications Lewandawski - four goals against Real in the CL + more. Gundogan - CL qualifications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Am I crazy not rate Caicedo. He’s good but massively overrated, a bit like Mitoma. Had a good purple patch but then fell off. I think the match he played against us towards the end of the season he was pretty shit, he was all over the place TBF to him and he changed position about 3 times. He's obviously quality but I wouldn't pay £80 million, no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 We're exploring options to sign Onana. Looks like De Gea could be tempted by Saudi Arabia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just saw the interview of Bellingham saying how much of a fan he is of Sid Lowe. Had a quick look at Lowe's wiki page: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 The use of Anglo Saxon world really tickled me for some reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Thats class Sid Lowe is great though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Brighton value Caicedo about the same as Rice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: Brighton value Caicedo about the same as Rice Maybe controversial but I think he’s a better player or certainly higher ceiling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Maybe controversial but I think he’s a better player or certainly higher ceiling. I think Rice is class, one of the best CM’s in the country Caicedo is good mind but Rice has proven it season after season at this point. hats off to Brighton though, they always get maximum value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just wondering what the % is of top class players or indeed academy potentials refusing to head to citeh bearing in mind there standing at the mo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, wyn davies said: Just wondering what the % is of top class players or indeed academy potentials refusing to head to citeh bearing in mind there standing at the mo. Offset by seemingly fantastic coaching and the hit rate of their youth products going on to make it at a high level even elsewhere. I'd love to know what our standing is like in the game now for development. Edited June 16, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Brighton value Caicedo about the same as Rice I would probably take him over Rice tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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