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2 hours ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

Nathan Collins has now had 3 summer transfers in a row totalling £64 million...

 

And I can honestly say I have no idea who the kid is?

 

 

Stoke

Burnley

Wolves

And now Brentford

 

Honestly today highlights how mad the game has gone.

 

 


Yet somehow we can’t a single player for money. 

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4 hours ago, rgk_lfc said:

Thiago Alcantara rumored to be in negotiation with Al Ahli

 

 

 

If that were to go through, how would you class his time with Liverpool?

 

Shown undoubted class at times but on the whole seems to have been underwhelming, perhaps mainly because of injury, and the fact that there was real high expectations when he signed and what he showed initially.

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5 hours ago, rgk_lfc said:

Thiago Alcantara rumored to be in negotiation with Al Ahli

 

 

 

Henderson linked with moving to Gerrard’s club. Explains why they’ve cast the net so wide for midfielders, it’s basically replacing the whole lot. Keita, Thiago, Henderson and Milner for Thuram, Szlob, Mac Allister and Lavia. Hell of an energy upgrade.

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12 hours ago, Yorkie said:

£19m for a goalie who's only played at League One level in club football. Wowzer. 

 

Man City just printing money with their academy. 


that’s the difference. It’s where we aim to be in five years time, and I’m glad the club are actively now going down that route with Minteh/Kuol etc. Chelsea & City can sell their built up over time assets for extraordinary fees, which protects them from

FFP, something which we are unable to do. 
 

we’ve raked in £15m or so since Howe came and spent £300m. It’s why I’ve said you have to be ruthless in this business. We should have sold or sell saint-maximin this summer. We can’t afford to carry players who produce one magical game and then get injured and are out for 10 games. I love ASM but with the FFP clearly an issue, we need to consider it, and extract maximum value.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Toon88 said:


that’s the difference. It’s where we aim to be in five years time, and I’m glad the club are actively now going down that route with Minteh/Kuol etc. Chelsea & City can sell their built up over time assets for extraordinary fees, which protects them from

FFP, something which we are unable to do. 
 

we’ve raked in £15m or so since Howe came and spent £300m. It’s why I’ve said you have to be ruthless in this business. We should have sold or sell saint-maximin this summer. We can’t afford to carry players who produce one magical game and then get injured and are out for 10 games. I love ASM but with the FFP clearly an issue, we need to consider it, and extract maximum value.

 

 

 

Breeding then selling young prospects has a much bigger FFP connotation than buying young and cheap and selling, but yeah, you have to say, massive financial cheats though City and Chelsea are, and have been for years, they've been canny enough to not forget the other end of things, the youth sales.

 

What makes this interesting now is that a lot of Championship and newly promoted PL clubs look at exactly this sort of end of the market, and have the money to buy in it, as well. 

 

As an example, if we sold Cameron Archer this summer - which I hope we do not - I reckon he'd fetch close to £20m, for a player who had barely featured for us, but had definitively 'done it' at Championship level. 

 

A while ago I remember reading an interview with someone high up in a PL academy - it might have been ours, I genuinely can't remember - and he was saying that given the vast numbers of players who go in and never make it, people don't realise what a huge impact the occasional sale at even 5m or 10m makes - both in terms of the costs of running an academy, but other things like FFP, and the immense amount of both effort and luck needed from both club and player to get them to that point.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Sima said:

Liverpool getting tens of millions from Saudi clubs is going to fucking sting a little.

It’ll sting a lot. Klopp won’t be blocking those moves based on his high horse moralism will he. Happy to take the “dirty blood money” and invest in building his club. 

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My youngest son played in a tournament in Barcelona earlier this summer against teams from France, Spain etc and some of the opposition were fucking HUGE.

 

Played against one 11 year old keeper who must've been 6ft 3 or 4.

 

Another centre back who was the spitting double of Chancel Mbemba at 11 years old. Again, over 6ft [emoji38].

 

There was also a couple of French wingers who looked like Pogba - massive, athetic as fuck and bigger than every parent [emoji38].

 

They build'em different nowadays.

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4 minutes ago, elbee909 said:

Coaches and scouts are more likely to choose those that are physically advanced. Wayne Rooney looked 30 years old if you recall :)

No arguments with that but I'd have thought kids who are miles bigger/stronger/more developed than average should probably play up a year and test themselves.

 

 

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5 hours ago, SteV said:

If that were to go through, how would you class his time with Liverpool?

 

Shown undoubted class at times but on the whole seems to have been underwhelming, perhaps mainly because of injury, and the fact that there was real high expectations when he signed and what he showed initially.

 

Very difficult to say one way or the other. He was definitely not a success given his reputation and definitely not a flop either. The constant injuries meant that we could never see him in full flow.  He was aesthetically a very pleasing footballer to watch, silky touch, skills on the ball, passing, etc. So when he was on song, he gave us moments when you jump out of the sofa and clap at what he did. 

 

To a certain extent, I also think it is not his fault. I am not sure such footballers fit Klopp's midfield ethos. Klopp's midfielders are skillful (not at his level, obviously) but are more physical. He didnt quite fit the template. You can see Klopp going back to his trusted template this season in our midfield purchases.

 

Another aspect I admire him for is his attitude. He has won the lot multiple times (treble twice, CL three times), and at no point did he show any airs. He joined the club and got right into it, embraced the city, the club, the youth team etc. Great person to have in your squad. Very Rafa like in the sense that he immediately got it. 

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2 hours ago, Minhosa said:

My youngest son played in a tournament in Barcelona earlier this summer against teams from France, Spain etc and some of the opposition were fucking HUGE.

 

Played against one 11 year old keeper who must've been 6ft 3 or 4.

 

Another centre back who was the spitting double of Chancel Mbemba at 11 years old. Again, over 6ft [emoji38].

 

There was also a couple of French wingers who looked like Pogba - massive, athetic as fuck and bigger than every parent [emoji38].

 

They build'em different nowadays.

 

Or they just lie about their ages.

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