Ben Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, Andy84 said: Just seen West Ham linked with about 10 players. Seems a bit of a mess there, doesn’t seem to be a clear strategy Same as last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Mbappe would be mad turning down a 1 year deal. He can spend a year jogging on kicking his heels in Paris or he can make $24 a second in Saudi. Hmmm, what to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Don’t think Moyes has any idea about how to build a side. I think he’s good at working with the players he has, fostering a united team and getting results but I’d never trust him with a budget. I know there are directors of football but they do need to work closely with the manager on transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: The other European leagues have been levelling these same complaints against the Premier league for a while now. Premier league has had a good run. Had to end sometime though and this summer is the beginning of it. I would say that the one (possible) caveat here is that at the very least there's a notion of heritage behind the football league in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, KaKa said: The other European leagues have been levelling these same complaints against the Premier league for a while now. Premier league has had a good run. Had to end sometime though and this summer is the beginning of it. I couldn’t give a fuck about the Premier League tbh. I just struggle to connect or care with any of football more. Money always drove the game I know but the whole thing just feels rotten now. We’re going to start to win trophies in the near future and I’ll still be ambivalent towards it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ben said: Same as last season Same as every other season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 This Mbappe thing - say Saudis actually buy him - could there be a behind the scenes deal with Qatar - you buy Mbappe - we’ll buy the TV rights for the Saudi league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Mbappe's probably the football equivalent of whoever is going to be the best tennis player over the next decade. We've had the Ronaldo/Messi/Federer/Nadal/Djokovic era, he's still world class just not their level. Exactly that. I was saying this to someone earlier. There's probably not going to be a Ballon d'Or winner born 88-97. That's a decade and a generation. There's never been a year where someone in that group has been the best active player in the world. Who is even the best in that bracket? Neymar, Hazard, Bale are probably the most talented and they've all basically retired. Similar to tennis and basketball. Outside of Mbappe - I don't see the next major football star. Maybe that's a good thing. Edited July 24, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, wormy said: How have Spurs weaseled their way in to the Mbappe rumours as if they're genuinely in the running? Classic Spurs. The big 4, the big 6, Super League, Mbappe. Coat-tail c*nts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, toon25 said: I would say that the one (possible) caveat here is that at the very least there's a notion of heritage behind the football league in England. Yes, I think for English players certainly, but a lot of foreign players will take the money being offered as the amounts in question are so absurd. The Mitrovic situation was very telling. Just came off a great season with Fulham on the cusp of a European place, and he wants out to go to Saudi. Any quality player that isn't at a club that is one of the top ones that is competitive and that can pay high wages is likely going to take an opportunity to go there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Magpie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I heard, don't quote me, the real reason Mbappe may well consider the Al Hilal offer is... the chance to play with a fellow compatriot aka St Maxisomethingorother. Might be bullshit, should probably ignore for now until more reliable sources confirm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, CFlan said: I couldn’t give a fuck about the Premier League tbh. I just struggle to connect or care with any of football more. Money always drove the game I know but the whole thing just feels rotten now. We’re going to start to win trophies in the near future and I’ll still be ambivalent towards it all. I remember Wenger talking about introducing some sort of salary cap setup back in the day, and no one was really trying to hear that. That's the only thing that could have prevented all this nonsense escalating. Way too late now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) English football had the greatest heritage but it wasn't until we started flashing the cash that top foreign players were interested in coming. We were the first 'sell out' league really. Serie A had the rightful claim of being the best league in the world, the biggest crowds and were dominant in Europe it was attacting the best players and when the change started. Edited July 24, 2023 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, Mikky said: This Mbappe thing - say Saudis actually buy him - could there be a behind the scenes deal with Qatar - you buy Mbappe - we’ll buy the TV rights for the Saudi league? Plenty of things don't make sense about the deal so something is happening behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Are Sheffield Utd even bothering this season or what? Spent about £5m so far. I mean, if they're in the 'take the parachutes and come back down' mode then fair enough but it's got to all seem a bit pointless getting promoted if there's virtually no ambition to actually stay there for more than a season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 My brother in law is a Sheffield United fan, think there’s an acceptance within the fan base and wider club that they don’t stand a chance of staying up. Think they were amazed that they got promoted in all honesty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KaKa Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Giannis man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, KaKa said: The other European leagues have been levelling these same complaints against the Premier league for a while now. Premier league has had a good run. Had to end sometime though and this summer is the beginning of it. The problem is that even if the PL lost ALL of its international TV revenues, it would still have a higher income than any other European league. The domestic TV revenues alone are double that of La Liga or the Bundesliga. And it is unlikely that the PL will go from £5bn+ for each three year cycle to £0. The PL losing its financial dominance of Europe isn’t likely to occur any time soon. What makes events in KSA interesting is that it could have the effect of strengthening Asian football. At the moment, the PL doubles its TV revenues from international broadcasts. If folks in Asia start paying for domestic leagues instead of PL, that could really help support stronger domestic and Asian competitions. Though of course the KSA model is unsustainable - KSA clubs would never have the income to support the crazy wages paid. They would always need propping up - and that can’t be indefinite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Saudi clubs in for Chiesa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Probably harsh after winning the Europa conference but think West Ham should have binned Moyes and hired someone else to rebuild with all the Rice money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I see a player in there, but Christ that's steep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, KaKa said: Premier league has had a good run. Had to end sometime though and this summer is the beginning of it. I’m not convinced that the Saudi league paying well above market value for a bunch of players past their prime is indicative of a major shift in the global football power structure. Your midtable PL club can still blow most European clubs out of the water when it comes to transfer fees and wages on offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Amrabat looking very likely for us now. Seeing £25m plus add ons as the fee. Fred definitely leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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