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2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Brummie, what are the long term goals of your owners in term of both on and off the field? Do you know motivations they have?

 

Win things. Sawiris of the two has become the most involved day to day (based in London, whereas Edens is US based) and is not an acceptor of crud (sacked Carpethead on the spot after Fulham last year, sacked Purslow, brought in some real heavy hitters behind the scenes.

 

And of course, grow the value of the club, whilst making it the centre piece of a multi-club portfolio.

 

These guys bought a distressed asset, we were literally hours away from administration thanks to that fucking chancer Xia (Lerner's final act of derelict stupidity not seeing through that muppet). 

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1 minute ago, brummie said:

 

Win things. Sawiris of the two has become the most involved day to day (based in London, whereas Edens is US based) and is not an acceptor of crud (sacked Carpethead on the spot after Fulham last year, sacked Purslow, brought in some real heavy hitters behind the scenes.

 

And of course, grow the value of the club, whilst making it the centre piece of a multi-club portfolio.

 

These guys bought a distressed asset, we were literally hours away from administration thanks to that fucking chancer Xia (Lerner's final act of derelict stupidity not seeing through that muppet). 

Thanks for sharing the insight as always. 

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On 02/08/2023 at 09:55, brummie said:

 

Be a good signing for us. Him, Kyle Walker-Peters and possibly an option up front (and ideally a new second choice keeper), and we're in an exceptionally good place.

 

Wanted us to make those exact signings. Fuck's sake your lot will be trouble. Re-hire Gerrard, ffs.

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1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

First time having for sympathy with west ham mind, replacing rice with such a clogger. 

 

These are great signings for a Moyes style of play. 

 

Could see both doing very well at West Ham.

 

They'll be a nuisance to play against. Especially if they also find Moyes a more robust striker and a winger on the left that is more convincing. Barnes would have been perfect opposite Bowen for Moyes.

 

The guy I feel sorry for in all of this is Paqueta, as I think he'll feel increasingly out of place in the team.

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1 hour ago, brummie said:

 

Win things. Sawiris of the two has become the most involved day to day (based in London, whereas Edens is US based) and is not an acceptor of crud (sacked Carpethead on the spot after Fulham last year, sacked Purslow, brought in some real heavy hitters behind the scenes.

 

And of course, grow the value of the club, whilst making it the centre piece of a multi-club portfolio.

 

These guys bought a distressed asset, we were literally hours away from administration thanks to that fucking chancer Xia (Lerner's final act of derelict stupidity not seeing through that muppet). 

Out of interest, what are your fanbases thoughts towards Lerner nowadays? Good, bad? As for a while things where pretty decent under him weren't they? And then debts started to pile up and he put in less and less time and money which ended up seeing you getting relegated? Can imagine the two conflicting periods causes a weird juxtaposition in the head of fans.

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1 hour ago, leffe186 said:


Why? Genuine question. Do the Saudis have part-ownership of Fulham?

Unless I have got it wrong, was he not a free agent who turned down an offer from SA, signed back up for Fulham and then they are potentially going to get a transfer fee for him?

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19 minutes ago, 54 said:

Out of interest, what are your fanbases thoughts towards Lerner nowadays? Good, bad? As for a while things where pretty decent under him weren't they? And then debts started to pile up and he put in less and less time and money which ended up seeing you getting relegated? Can imagine the two conflicting periods causes a weird juxtaposition in the head of fans.

 

Good then very bad.

 

He got divorced, found a new girlfriend who didn't like football, and he just totally withdraw for years. 

 

Basically, a bit like Everton in terms of neglect except without the big spending.

 

 

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I don't think there's any guarantee that those signings fail. Maguire has obviously more than had it at Man Utd but there was once an excellent defender there; an old school no-nonsense marauding CB. It's clear as day that he needs a fresh start. 

 

Jury's out on McTominay but he's not the comedy signing the early-summer discourse on here would have you believe. You don't get to over 200 appearances for ManU / 40 caps for Scotland in the early stages of your career if you've not got something about you. 

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12 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I don't think there's any guarantee that those signings fail. Maguire has obviously more than had it at Man Utd but there was once an excellent defender there; an old school no-nonsense marauding CB. It's clear as day that he needs a fresh start. 

 

Jury's out on McTominay but he's not the comedy signing the early-summer discourse on here would have you believe. You don't get to over 200 appearances for ManU / 40 caps for Scotland in the early stages of your career if you've not got something about you. 

 

 

 

 

They're more than adequate for Moyes led West Ham. Prices will be insane though.

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8 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I don't think there's any guarantee that those signings fail. Maguire has obviously more than had it at Man Utd but there was once an excellent defender there; an old school no-nonsense marauding CB. It's clear as day that he needs a fresh start. 

 

Jury's out on McTominay but he's not the comedy signing the early-summer discourse on here would have you believe. You don't get to over 200 appearances for ManU / 40 caps for Scotland in the early stages of your career if you've not got something about you. 

I agree, I think most of the names linked to West Ham would greatly improve them.

 

I think McTominay is a good player and his profile is actually one that I think Newcastle still need in midfield if our squad get stretched by injuries etc.

 

The obvious issue is the inflated fees which West Ham are inevitably going to have to pay.

 

They will have more money once Scamacca is sold as well. 

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McTominay and Maguire are the tier of signing you make as a club that accepts you have no ambition. They might be able to contribute to some middling finishes for a few years but they’ll command big fees and big salaries without contributing that standard on the pitch. I’d be absolutely gutted as a fan if those were our targets 

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14 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I don't think there's any guarantee that those signings fail. Maguire has obviously more than had it at Man Utd but there was once an excellent defender there; an old school no-nonsense marauding CB. It's clear as day that he needs a fresh start. 

 

Jury's out on McTominay but he's not the comedy signing the early-summer discourse on here would have you believe. You don't get to over 200 appearances for ManU / 40 caps for Scotland in the early stages of your career if you've not got something about you. 

 

Exactly. You always have to look at the type of signings that typically work for a manager.

 

Maguire will be in a team that sits deeper rather than plays with a high line and will be asked to keep it simpler playing out from the back. He's also a major set piece threat, which Moyes focuses on.

 

McTominay is a typical big athletic Moyes midfielder that he gets a lot out of like Fellaini and Soucek have been for him.

 

I'd have been happier if they forced continental players on him again that he doesn't know what to do with tbh, as that's when things go badly for him.

 

Moyes was getting 4th at Everton when he was just allowed to sign the types of players he wanted.

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5 minutes ago, gbandit said:

McTominay and Maguire are the tier of signing you make as a club that accepts you have no ambition. They might be able to contribute to some middling finishes for a few years but they’ll command big fees and big salaries without contributing that standard on the pitch. I’d be absolutely gutted as a fan if those were our targets 

 

I don't think this is necessarily true. 

 

You have to know who your manager is and what works for them. 

 

 

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