Other clubs' transfers

[vicente_14]

57 minutes ago, Beth said:

If WHU are offering £60m for Maguire and McTominay their owners are absolutely mental. Moyes loves signing has beens and never will be's.

 

Moyes will be gone before Christmas, that cup win is really covering over the cracks.

[Ben]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

He was playing RB iirc and was solid there. 

This is true but solid is not £100 million, I'm not saying he's not a good player, he's just not worth that, I'd rather have Bruno any day of the week

[The College Dropout]

7 minutes ago, Ben said:

This is true but solid is not £100 million, I'm not saying he's not a good player, he's just not worth that, I'd rather have Bruno any day of the week

Different type of player. 
 

I think Caicedo is brilliant. 

[brummie]

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Different type of player. 
 

I think Caicedo is brilliant. 

 

I think he is too, but then again, at the back of my mind, I am wondering how many Brighton players get sold for big money and continue being brilliant.

 

Obviously, someone will now list tons of them.

[Ben]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Different type of player. 
 

I think Caicedo is brilliant. 

Bellingham is brilliant Caicedo is a good premier league player £40 million tops

[Ronson333]

3 minutes ago, Ben said:

Bellingham is brilliant Caicedo is a good premier league player £40 million tops

Ridiculous 

[Kimbo]

£40m might not even get you McTominay in this market.

[The College Dropout]

5 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

£40m might not even get you McTominay in this market.

£40m will get you a winger that’s scored 7 premier league goals in 70 odd matches at 21. 
 

2/3 of Mason Mount with 1 year left on his contract. 
 

Less than half a Declan Rice. 
 

It doesn’t even get you Kalvin Phillips. 

[Stottie]

Brighton have a weird way of playing where they cycle the ball and tempt the other team to overpress. They are extremely well-drilled at it and it works most of the time. When it doesn't work, their opposition manages to convert the 40% of possession they get into lots of xG. We do not hog the ball, but concede significantly fewer.

 

The ease with which Brighton can replace players and even the manager suggests what they are achieving is not dependent on Caicedo or any other individual. That Caicedo can do it at such a young age speaks highly of him however.

 

[Disco]

3 hours ago, cubaricho said:

He wouldn’t give a fuck at all. And he’s the wrong side of 30. The pace of the Prem would eat him up.
 

Plenty of dudes have gone to Chelsea to supposedly be their best player and elevate them but you can’t do that at that club.

I’d pay double to see Dan Burn boot him into the stand like a Hondurans in 2012.

[cubaricho]

21 minutes ago, Disco said:

I’d pay double to see Dan Burn boot him into the stand like a Hondurans in 2012.

Hell yeah

[Disco]

Exemplary. All Hearts aren’t we?

 

Nut was right all along. 

[Flip]

10 hours ago, cubaricho said:

He wouldn’t give a fuck at all. And he’s the wrong side of 30. The pace of the Prem would eat him up.
 

Plenty of dudes have gone to Chelsea to supposedly be their best player and elevate them but you can’t do that at that club.

Wrong side of 30 doesn’t really apply anymore. Cristiano, Messi, Modric, Kroos, Lewa, Benzema etc all showed that you can play at the highest level until you are 34-35 as long as you can keep fit and have the talent. In terms of talent no one except for De Bruyne comes close in the PL (Haaland is another story). It’s obviously a very high risk high reward situation for anyone trying to sign him because of his injury record.

[Flip]

6 hours ago, Disco said:

I’d pay double to see Dan Burn boot him into the stand like a Hondurans in 2012.

 

 Dan Burn against Neymar man. What a sight that would be. And pace would apprently kill him.

[Kid Icarus]

Well done Disco, you've summoned Sambyman.

[Flip]

20 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Well done Disco, you've summoned Sambyman.

 

 I lurk until I can impress @Shak in the golf thread or someone mentions Neymar.

[brummie]

9 hours ago, Stottie said:

Brighton have a weird way of playing where they cycle the ball and tempt the other team to overpress. 

 

 

Is that such a weird way of playing? There are plenty of teams who do that - us included.

[Froggy]

1 hour ago, Flip said:

as long as you can keep fit

 

And Neymar has proven that he can't.

 

He hasn't managed more than 22 league apps in a season since 2017. 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2023 by Froggy

[KingArthur]

9 hours ago, Stottie said:

Brighton have a weird way of playing where they cycle the ball and tempt the other team to overpress. They are extremely well-drilled at it and it works most of the time. When it doesn't work, their opposition manages to convert the 40% of possession they get into lots of xG. We do not hog the ball, but concede significantly fewer.

 

The ease with which Brighton can replace players and even the manager suggests what they are achieving is not dependent on Caicedo or any other individual. That Caicedo can do it at such a young age speaks highly of him however.

 

Problem with Brighton is, that there is often very little presence in the box. Usually Wellbeck or whoever the striker is ends up alone in there. So all the fine work they do to keep the ball and play pass the press, they still don't get to very dangerous positions. It is very nice to watch, but then suddenly nothing happens were it all matters.

[Flip]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

And Neymar has proven that he can't.

 

He hasn't managed more than 22 league apps in a season since 2017. 

 

 

 

Hence the very high risk comment… 

[Froggy]

5 minutes ago, Flip said:

Hence the very high risk comment… 

 

Higher than high. He was a crock during his prime years in a low intensity league.

 

He'd be eaten alive in the Prem. Man would be at his sisters house for 7 months of the season.

[McCormick]

Possibly the most naturally gifted player in my lifetime. Weird to say, as he’s had/ is having a great career, but I feel like he’s wasted his potential massively. Were it not for injuries, poor career choices or a lack of application (?) he had all the talent to be considered alongside Messi and Ronaldo as one of the absolute greats of this era.

 

 

Edited August 8, 2023 by McCormick

[Unbelievable]

Nah, not even close to that level.

[gbandit]

Agreed, I think he is an incredibly skilful footballer but there’s a lot of unnecessary stuff to his game. Messi is just ultimate efficiency married with skill. Messi almost never did skill for the sake of skill. Neymar did skill for the sake of skill a lot because he didn’t have the same level of ability as Messi. He’s still one of the best footballers of his generation but I don’t think he’d ever have been Messi level, and probably couldn’t have gotten close to Ronaldo either. Whatever you say about CRonaldo, his mentality is the best going and no one’s going to match it 

[Max Cherry]

I wouldn't even have him 3rd behind Messi and Ronaldo. Little showboating diving dickhead with heaps of talent but an absolutely shit attitude. The likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Modric etc are miles ahead of him in this generation.