The College Dropout Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, KingArthur said: Problem with Brighton is, that there is often very little presence in the box. Usually Wellbeck or whoever the striker is ends up alone in there. So all the fine work they do to keep the ball and play pass the press, they still don't get to very dangerous positions. It is very nice to watch, but then suddenly nothing happens were it all matters. That's Potter Brighton. DeZerbi's Brighton score a lot of goals. Last season Brighton scored more league goals than us and the 4th highest in the league. Only behind City, Arsenal and Liverpool. It's the 53 goals (like 8th worst in the league) conceded that dragged them down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Interested to see how Brighton get on this season. Sold their best two players agf De Zerbi teams aren't usually that most solid on the middle of the park. Should still have enough to finish top half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Woof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, gbandit said: Agreed, I think he is an incredibly skilful footballer but there’s a lot of unnecessary stuff to his game. Messi is just ultimate efficiency married with skill. Messi almost never did skill for the sake of skill. Neymar did skill for the sake of skill a lot because he didn’t have the same level of ability as Messi. He’s still one of the best footballers of his generation but I don’t think he’d ever have been Messi level, and probably couldn’t have gotten close to Ronaldo either. Whatever you say about CRonaldo, his mentality is the best going and no one’s going to match it Messi and Cristiano are clearly ahead and thats not even debatable, but after them I don’t think we’ve had a player in the past 15 years near Neymars level of talent. 20 minutes ago, Max Cherry said: I wouldn't even have him 3rd behind Messi and Ronaldo. Little showboating diving dickhead with heaps of talent but an absolutely shit attitude. The likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Modric etc are miles ahead of him in this generation. 401 goals and 224 assists for club and country for an injury riddled showboater with unnecessary skills is quite good tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Woof. Howay wet spam we have so much deadwood for you at much more reasonable prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Flip said: Messi and Cristiano are clearly ahead and thats not even debatable, but after them I don’t think we’ve had a player in the past 15 years near Neymars level of talent. 401 goals and 224 assists for club and country for an injury riddled showboater with unnecessary skills is quite good tbh. Aye. People complain about robotic players like Haaland being the best and complain about a lack of flair.... then turn around and hate Neymar's game. It makes no sense. Neymar is at worst.. the 2nd best player born in the 90s. He would be a top 5 player in PL history had he played here for a decade. Players like Rooney, Bale, Aguero, Suarez... he's better than them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 46 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Woof. If it’s a double deal - most I’d go to is £40m - I think that’s fair Me, personally, I’d buy neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Maguire has agreed personal terms. The fee is actually £30m plus £5m in add ons. Done deal. Will be announced soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I bet the wages for them would easily be £250k+ per week as well. Marvellous stuff if it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronson333 said: Just a shit Sven Botman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Too much money but IMO overall a good deal for both clubs They are two midtable players, established in the league. Probably decent characters too. Maguire will play himself back into his (limited) form. West Ham will have a capable midfield 3 West Ham to finish a solid 11th or so and have some fun in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Good deal for West ham but i am going to put money on them overriding their new technical director and get all of moyes targets in mctominey and ward prowse (who would be an excellent signing imo) and then fire moyes in September and replace him with potter whom will hate all those players. Absolute cast iron guaranteed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Probably decent characters too McTominay is anyway. He'll be a very good player for West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Good deal for West ham but i am going to put money on them overriding their new technical director and get all of moyes targets in mctominey and ward prowse (who would be an excellent signing imo) and then fire moyes in September and replace him with potter whom will hate all those players. Absolute cast iron guaranteed. Oi oi! Edited August 8, 2023 by leffe186 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Oh absolutely deliberate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I like Maguire and it annoys me how much stick he gets because he’s not a bad player. There was a time Man utd fans were praying he’d be fit for the Europa League final. I think the problem was when Varane came in. Maguire was the leader before that but Varane is obviously the better player. Had Maguire taken a back seat and let Varane do the coordinating, he could have survived but bossing around a four time Champions League World Cup winning defender was not the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Max Cherry said: I wouldn't even have him 3rd behind Messi and Ronaldo. Little showboating diving dickhead with heaps of talent but an absolutely shit attitude. The likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Modric etc are miles ahead of him in this generation. Yeah, the only place I'd have him 3rd is in that MSN front 3 that's the best I've ever seen. Unbelievable footballer, but played in an era where unbelievable players were in abundance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Neymar’s been irrelevant for six years now. The moment he went to PSG, his career was over. His idol Ronaldinho went from PSG to Barcelona. This idiot went to PSG from Barcelona. Absolute waste of a career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Men with ven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 McTominay is just Nicky Butt for Gen Z. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Neymar’s been irrelevant for six years now. The moment he went to PSG, his career was over. His idol Ronaldinho went from PSG to Barcelona. This idiot went to PSG from Barcelona. Absolute waste of a career. I do agree the move didn’t end up as he intended, but wouldn’t call Brazil’s top scorer of all time a waste of career. Injury definitely played a bigger part than club choice in his career not turning into what he probably had hoped. Using Ronaldinho as an argument to diminish Neymar is quite weird as Ronaldinho became a washed up ex-player at the age of 27 basically and only had roughly four years as a top 10 player (and he was even more talented than Neymar). People tend to forget that. Quite evident that the likeability of Ronaldinho and dislikeability of Neymar clouds peoples judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Flip said: I do agree the move didn’t end up as he intended, but wouldn’t call Brazil’s top scorer of all time a waste of career. Injury definitely played a bigger part than club choice in his career not turning into what he probably had hoped. Using Ronaldinho as an argument to diminish Neymar is quite weird as Ronaldinho became a washed up ex-player at the age of 27 basically and only had roughly four years as a top 10 player (and he was even more talented than Neymar). People tend to forget that. Quite evident that the likeability of Ronaldinho and dislikeability of Neymar clouds peoples judgement. Ronaldinho was okay at Milan. But what really clouds my judgement is leaving the best team in the world to join an inferior team and league at the age of 24/25. Aside from the 2013 ConFed Cup, Neymar was either injured or underperformed at major tournaments. Injured for the 2019 Copa America. There were so many Copa Americas going on from 2014-2016 and he never won any, he probably wasn’t present. That’s the type of player he is/was - moody. Shows up when he wants, if the occasion suits him. Probably the biggest let down of a player I’ve ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I still remember when we made Maguire look shit for Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 And Neymar being Brazil’s top scorer doesn’t impress me. It’s not like Messi or Ronaldo. Winning World Cups and Euros, scoring hattricks against Spain and Brazil. He won the Olympics which I don’t count as a true international tournament. Look at the squads that competed in it. It’s what three? Major players and the rest have to be under 23? His international career in on par with Stern John for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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