Jaqen Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, midds said: West Ham spunking circa £115,000,000 on Maguire, McTominay and JWP would be simultaneously utterly abysmal and absolutely hilarious. Textbook definition of selling their crown jewel and replacing it with 3 from the Argos catalogue We got Bruno, Botman and Tonali for not much more than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, midds said: West Ham spunking circa £115,000,000 on Maguire, McTominay and JWP would be simultaneously utterly abysmal and absolutely hilarious. Textbook definition of selling their crown jewel and replacing it with 3 from the Argos catalogue Standard Moyes and standard form for most if not all aging British managers. West Ham should have binned him off and done a rebuild with someone new. They just won the Conference League and are in FFP paradise and they've wasted it with Moyes. They could have realistically created something that could have ended up with them in the top 10 and maybe getting into a European spot. Instead Moyes will be sacked before Halloween probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Danh1 said: Interesting one Whatever wages he gets to go there we need to match for Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Why would I put stock in pre season? They literally scored more goals than us, Man U, Villa etc. without a proper goalscorer. The system produced results Whatever, just saying what I have noticed that is their problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The College Dropout Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, KingArthur said: Whatever, just saying what I have noticed that is their problem. And it’s literally not true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Paqueta leaving would cripple them. I think McTominay and Ward-Prowse with Paqueta more advanced would have been a good midfield, but take him out of it and they're struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 £70 million. Why didn't they just gamble last summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrRaspberryJam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: And it’s literally not true. You’ve definitely overtaken Kaka in the arrogance stakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 One to keep an ion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: And it’s literally not true. And literally just seems we have a different opinion about this matter. You seem like a nice chap to discuss with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Ward Prowse not just scoring from set pieces but whipping them in for the likes of Alvarez, Maguire, McTominay, Soucek and Zouma. If Paqueta leaves and they get a physical striker to replace Scammacca leaving, as well as a left winger to provide what Bowen does on the right, West Ham are getting into Europe. Moyes ball might not be the most inspiring, but when he has his players it is effective and tough to play against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: You’ve definitely overtaken Kaka in the arrogance stakes. As @The College Dropout would say, you don't know ball. That's why you claim people are arrogant. Edited August 9, 2023 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Replacing Rice and Paqueta with Alvarez, McTominay and JWP would be something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I do like JWP and McTominay (to a lesser degree) but agree they’re not exactly improving on Rice with those additions. Although, as another poster has said, you can’t replace a player of Rice’s quality if you’re a team like West Ham. Their only hope would be to unearth a Caceido-like gem but that’s much easier said than done - especially without the proper scouting network. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Prophet said: One to keep an ion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, KingArthur said: And literally just seems we have a different opinion about this matter. You seem like a nice chap to discuss with. Not meaning to be rude but this is a matter of fact - not opinion. You surmised that Brighton don’t score enough goals for all their good play. Under DeZerbi - that’s just not true. 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: Ward Prowse not just scoring from set pieces but whipping them in for the likes of Alvarez, Maguire, McTominay, Soucek and Zouma. If Paqueta leaves and they get a physical striker to replace Scammacca leaving, as well as a left winger to provide what Bowen does on the right, West Ham are getting into Europe. Moyes ball might not be the most inspiring, but when he has his players it is effective and tough to play against. I rate Moyes. But I think the league is evolving past that. Not to say they won’t have a good season. I’m just not totally convinced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I rate Moyes. But I think the league is evolving past that. Not to say they won’t have a good season. I’m just not totally convinced. There's always going to be different approaches/styles to the game and it will always depend on how well those approaches are drilled and how effective the players at the club can play that style. Brentford battered Man City last season playing a more direct physical style. I really don't like Moyes getting these players for the way he likes to play. They are a very good fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Oh yeah, it’s very boring for sure. Long term it doesn’t seem a good idea to have Moyes asking for these types of players. Maybe they’re just too worried about replacing him and rolling the dice on relegation again. Needed to identify and hire their Howe/De Zerbi, start negotiations for the players he wants, then sell Rice. West Ham are probably better off this way. If they fired Moyes, they’d probably hire Jesse Marsch or some such. Sill better than Leeds. Hire Marsch, buy the players he wants, immediately fire him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Not meaning to be rude but this is a matter of fact - not opinion. You surmised that Brighton don’t score enough goals for all their good play. Under DeZerbi - that’s just not true. They suffered from it last season, despite scoring a lot. Their xG rating was third highest in the EPL. Couldn't score against ManU in FA Cup ultimately cost them the place in the final for example. We can discuss this during the season, seems pretty pointless to have this conversation now. Not meaning to be rude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, KaKa said: As @The College Dropout would say, you don't know ball. That's why you claim people are arrogant. I openly admit to knowing little but it’s the way folk talk down to people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: I openly admit to knowing little but it’s the way folk talk down to people. Condescending and belittling, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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St1pe Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Could seen Paqueta doing really well for Pep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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