Newintoon Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 People need to separate going to China and leaving Newcastle he was always leaving I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did working for these cretins. After he left did I see him going to China absolutely not, he would be one of the last people I would expect to take whatever money was offered, in my eyes it’s a place where ur career goes to die, not fitting for one of the best in the business such a shame and the premier leagues loss. Thanks Rafa for trying ur upmost to improve our club, ur always be welcome back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I wonder if Rafa can convince his new £16 billion owner to look abroad for his next club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Probably already watched all their games from last season and all the other teams as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Shame. I was hopeful Rafa might return under new ownership this month. Just fuck off Ashley man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Any details of how long the contract is yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Red doesn't suit him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 What a sad state of affairs man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is like some sort of sick nightmare, man. I just want to wake up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is like some sort of sick nightmare, man. I just want to wake up. Potentially one of the most overdramatic things I've read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The lure of the big money was obviously a carrot dangling. No one goes to China IMO for anything other than money. At the same time I believe everything Rafa says in that times article, and that he is genuine in his feelings towards nufc. Nothing's changed. The lack of ambition is clear to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is like some sort of sick nightmare, man. I just want to wake up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 leave me alone man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Probably worth a lock now like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Hopefully he will buy Elliott, Dummett, Manquillo, Colback, Murphy, Saivet and Joselu for 50m each the second we get taken over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzgerald Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I wonder what sort of transfer budget he will have there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Fucking China, man. Well..... when he was here, they were still mostly miserable times. That's why I'm getting over this quite quickly. We're just a 14th-17th placed team these days, so it's not like any of this is fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 And there it is! This cunt can get in the fucking sea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Fuck off to anyone having a single bad word to say about Rafa Benitez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Rafa Benítez knows what people will say and he can understand it. At the age of 59, one of the most garlanded managers of his generation has left for the Far East, signing a two-and-a-half year contract with Dalian Yifang of the Chinese Super League. His annual salary is an estimated £12 million, an astonishing figure. Has he only gone for the money? “I cannot deny it is a big financial offer,” the Spaniard admits. The riches are extraordinary, but there is a bit more to Benítez’s departure than simple, hard cash. During his three years at Newcastle United, when he led the club back into the Premier League and then kept them there twice, he dismissed the notion of moving to China, speaking of his desire to stay close to his family on Merseyside, to compete in the Champions League again. Nothing has changed, aside from his circumstances. Benítez has won just about everything — La Liga and the Uefa Cup at Valencia, the FA Cup and Champions League with Liverpool, the Italian Super Cup and the Fifa Club World Cup at Inter Milan, the Europa League at Chelsea and the Italian Cup and Super Cup at Napoli — but he has not been pursued by the top clubs this summer. And waiting for sacking season is only likely to bring options in the bottom half of the Premier League. “It was three years ago I said no, but you have to think about you and your staff and the opportunities,” Benítez says, talking exclusively to The Times. “After Newcastle, it makes no sense to be fighting again at the bottom of the table. I don’t think you can find a team in the the bottom ten bigger than Newcastle in terms of potential and structure and everything. Why do I have to wait for that when I have a chance to build something? “You have to consider the situation. It’s not about saying ‘I’ll stay in England and wait and dream about the right club at the right time’. I’m just really pleased and really excited that someone was really keen to get me, to give me the opportunity to develop a project and at the same time, with a really good economic proposal. You want to do something, build something, leave something behind. At the same time, you cannot be lying; it’s good money.” After the slow erosion of trust at Newcastle, Dalian have chased Benítez. They have made him feel wanted. After 15 games played, they are tenth in the Super League, but they have big plans. They are backed by Wang Jianlin, the fourth richest man in China, who is worth £17.2 billion, according to Forbes. Jianlin’s Wanda Group is a multinational conglomerate, which sold a 17 per cent stake in Atletico Madrid last year. Dalian are in the process of building a 22 hectare training ground and academy, at a cost of $290 million (about £230 million), with 23 pitches, six of them floodlit, two with undersoil heating, two indoors and with a 5,000-seater stand, servicing its first, reserve, youth and women’s teams. There will be accommodation on-site, areas for teaching and rehabilitation, with conference facilities. It is due to open in December. Does that sound ambitious enough? “The group is one of the biggest companies in the world,” Benítez says. “The project is about developing the whole football club, to organise it from the academy at the bottom to the very top. “And then to be sure that we have a methodology, an idea about football and then especially to develop the local players because Dalian is a place where they’re really proud about their history as a football club. They want to use the resources they have to guarantee that the club will be stronger and stronger, using local players as much as they can but also competing in the international market. “I said no in the past, but we don’t have many good options around and this is an opportunity. It’s with people who really, really want you and with someone who really wants to build something. And at the same time, it’s an exciting experience of another culture, another country where everything is different. It’s another challenge: can we adapt, what we can learn from them? And can I leave a legacy?” Benítez wants and needs to work; it is how he is wired. “I’ve had the experience of staying at home, waiting,” he says. “It’s so frustrating for you to see teams struggling and think ‘I could do this, I could do that’ when you are at home. No chance. I want to make sure that I have a job and perform at the level that I can perform, anywhere. “I like to train, to coach. I did the same with my daughter’s team at her school. I can’t just be sitting and waiting. My wife would just tell me to go away, anyway. It’s better if I get a job and if it’s a good job with a good project and good money then I’m happy with that.” In any case, Manuel Pellegrini, who moved from Manchester City to Hebei China Fortune and then back to West Ham United, is proof there can be life after the Chinese Super League. “My ambition hasn’t changed,” Benítez says. “I want to compete. I want to win. In this case, I have to adapt, but I had to adapt at Newcastle, too. The challenge is not just the first team, but organising everything at the club in terms of football. If you’re successful, everyone can be pleased with that.” Mikel Antía, Paco de Miguel and Antonio Gomez, Benítez’s coaching team at Newcastle, have gone with him (they are joined by Darko Matic, the former Croatian player). For them, it will be a life-changing move, in every respect. “I have to think about my people, my staff, as well as my own future,” he says. There will be countless games of Mus, the Spanish card game they all play together, and the western movies which Benítez loves to watch during his (rare) downtime. Benítez has done his homework. “Dalian have Marek Hamsik who was my player at Napoli,” he says. “Yannick Carrasco is a Belgian international and they have Emmanuel Boateng who was at Levante. We are looking at their players and I have watched some of their games.” The club also have a 40-year-old right back, but difference is part of the appeal and the challenge. Away games will mean flights and some will entail a few days of acclimatisation. He would not have predicted this a couple of years ago, but football is like that and what does ambition mean, anyway? What were Newcastle’s ambitions under Mike Ashley? China is a long way from home, but Dalian play at a 61,000-capacity stadium and Carrasco is estimated to have cost them £26.5 million. Benítez is itching to get on with it. “Am I capable of managing, of using my experience to help them build something?” he says. “That’s what I will try to do.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 While disappointing from a footballing perspective (I don’t follow the Chinese Super League, nor do I plan to start), I don’t begrudge any player who maximizes their earning potential. This game is already too heavily-weighted in favor of owners and large corporations profiting off the labor of players who actually make the game possible. The majority of professional footballers will have, at best, finished playing by their mid-30s; I hope they each get theirs and more before their time is up. Same holds for Rafa. He’s so much better than Chinese football, but at least they understand his value and are willing to pay him accordingly. He didn’t fuck us off to move to China; Ashley flipped him the bird and told him to piss off. He’ll be back managing in Europe within the next couple of years and whichever club is wise enough to give him what he deserves will be all the better for it. And we’ll still be the fucking mugs who fucked off Rafa Benitez for no reason at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 leave me alone man. Do you need a cuddle poppet ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 A new £230 million training ground there and he was afforded newly-painted walls here FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Fucking China, man. Well..... when he was here, they were still mostly miserable times. That's why I'm getting over this quite quickly. We're just a 14th-17th placed team these days, so it's not like any of this is fun. We're that because of him, without him we're going to be 20th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Rafa doing this for 2.5 years (his contract) likely ensures his staff are now even better off than ever before in terms of their own personal financial well being as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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