Erikse Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) I just remembered how we thought we needed an entire new midfield before Howe came in. Personally I really believed that not a single player in our squad would stay as central midfield starters long term, and that we would go on to buy an entire new midfield. Turns out all we needed to secure top 4 was Bruno, and then we moved Joelinton to midfield while Longstaff and Willock transformed. Turns out we already had 3 solid midfielders in our team under Bruce, he just ruined them all. Edited September 27, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: ... and still Connor Gallagher and Kalvin Phillips will be in the England squad ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said: ... and still Connor Gallagher and Kalvin Phillips will be in the England squad ahead of him. Am glad tbh Fuck England Hes not gonna be a player who's gonna leave to get international football. So he will get a nice break every few months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Just remember that the brilliant and downt-to-earth bloke that he is, never kicks up a fuss, never complains. When asked who the best player at the club is he says Bruno and his reason is "because he makes me look better" or something like that. The guy deserves far more credit than he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 No coincidence we’ve improved since he’s come back in. If he starts adding regular goals, what a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 He has done very well, but also, let's not forget the teams we've played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 16 hours ago, Geordie_once_removed said: ... and still Connor Gallagher and Kalvin Phillips will be in the England squad ahead of him. It would be interesting to see him in another setup. Technically he's not the best and tends to make a fair few unforced errors which will be scrutinised at the international level. Instinctively, I feel people will say he's not good enough based off that alone. But he has this ability to make others around him look better. But I don't think you need Logstaff and Rice in a team. Rice can do the off the ball stuff that Longstaff does. Sharper at passing. And As good as Rice is, I don't think he's great at passing it through the lines which is what i think England are missing most in midfield. Rice passes forward but often wide. Someone like Partey passes straight into Odegaard or a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: It would be interesting to see him in another setup. Technically he's not the best and tends to make a fair few unforced errors which will be scrutinised at the international level. Instinctively, I feel people will say he's not good enough based off that alone. But he has this ability to make others around him look better. But I don't think you need Logstaff and Rice in a team. Rice can do the off the ball stuff that Longstaff does. Sharper at passing. And As good as Rice is, I don't think he's great at passing it through the lines which is what i think England are missing most in midfield. Rice passes forward but often wide. Someone like Partey passes straight into Odegaard or a striker. I agree with this but fail to see what Gallagher brings to the table at international level above what Sean and it would be nice to see him get the recognition but overall it's probably best he gets a rest those weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Gallagher should be nowhere near the England squad anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Monters said: I agree with this but fail to see what Gallagher brings to the table at international level above what Sean and it would be nice to see him get the recognition but overall it's probably best he gets a rest those weeks I don't know for sure. But i'm guessing Gallagher is better technically. I want our players to get international recognition just for them. But I don’t think the extra games and scrutiny would be good for Longstaff and I don’t think his skills would translate well to an international game. But he keeps upping his levels so you never know. Southgate tend to play Gallagher as an 6/8 and I thought he was at his best as a hard working 10 and an 8 at a push. Similar to MGW. As a 6 or an 8 JWP is better at that but he doesn’t play for a fashionable club or Palace. Edited September 27, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I don't know for sure. But i'm guessing Gallagher is better technically. I want our players to get international recognition just for them. But I don’t think the extra games and scrutiny would be good for Longstaff and I don’t think his skills would translate well to an international game. But he keeps upping his levels so you never know. Southgate tend to play Gallagher as an 6/8 and I thought he was at his best as a hard working 10 and an 8 at a push. Similar to MGW. As a 6 or an 8 JWP is better at that but he doesn’t play for a fashionable club or Palace. I agree with the bold but I don't see Gallagher as better in anyway - seems to fall down an awful lot ruining any good work he had previously done; I would have been over the moon to sign him after his spell at Palace but now I'd take Sean all day everyday and twice on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 22 hours ago, jack j said: Am glad tbh Fuck England Hes not gonna be a player who's gonna leave to get international football. So he will get a nice break every few months I don't think that's right tbh, his main asset is his movement and willingness to run for 90mins. If he can add some guile and touch to his game on a regular basis there's now way he won't get recognised. For us his ground coverage is massive because it helps our press become more effective, and that in turn makes players like Bruno look much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Gallagher is just all running and not much else, from what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I don't know for sure. But i'm guessing Gallagher is better technically. I want our players to get international recognition just for them. But I don’t think the extra games and scrutiny would be good for Longstaff and I don’t think his skills would translate well to an international game. But he keeps upping his levels so you never know. Southgate tend to play Gallagher as an 6/8 and I thought he was at his best as a hard working 10 and an 8 at a push. Similar to MGW. As a 6 or an 8 JWP is better at that but he doesn’t play for a fashionable club or Palace. I don't really disagree and I'm not that fussed he isn't being called up other than it irks me a little as I perceive there to be issues around merit and England call ups under Southgate these last few years. On balance I do think it would be good overall for Newcastle, even with the extra game time. Our best chance of success lies with us offering a clear pathway to success for the best young talents in the world so they sign for us. I think this would help us sell that vision to players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Yeh I agree with that. It's a draw for players. The way players join the other top 6, play a few decent games and are basically guaranteed an England call-up or 5. Like that lad that used to play for Spurs, is about 26 and has joined Leicester in the Champ. Or the 30 caps that Man U mid got that plays for Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Gallagher is still getting rewarded for that decent season on loan at Palace 2 years ago. He's pretty naff. I still like the look of him for some reason, inexplicably, which is probably why he's still getting England call ups etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 New deal and an England call up in the pipeline? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Box to box and sideline to sideline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Great work ethic but shame chances keep falling to him he has no composure when it comes to actually scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I really appreciated his work more today. Reliable work ethic, covers gaps, tidies up and joins the attack from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Great work ethic but shame chances keep falling to him he has no composure when it comes to actually scoring. The plus is that even if he's not got elite end product, his work rate makes him great for our press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 He is a machine, the Tonality signing could have mentally messed up him, but he's gone to another level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Our return to form coincided with his return to the side, very well done to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 We stopped losing games once he came back in the side which is no accident imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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