Smal Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: How? he doesn't need to be registered to play in Europe so there's no upside at all to registering him. It would literally just be taking up a squad space for zero benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 14 minutes ago, Smal said: he doesn't need to be registered to play in Europe so there's no upside at all to registering him. It would literally just be taking up a squad space for zero benefit. It allows us to register another non-HG player. So if we have 3 HG club players or 7 national HG players. We can only register 23 players. But if we register 4 we can register 25 players = a net +1 of non-HG players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 Just sign Adam Armstrong, Freddie Woodman and Andy Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It allows us to register another non-HG player. So if we have 3 HG club players or 7 national HG players. We can only register 23 players. But if we register 4 we can register 25 players = a net +1 of non-HG players. The 25 has to include 4 club home grown and 8 national homegrown players. Anyone who is club home grown also counts as national homegrown. If we had 3 club homegrown players then we'd have to leave a slot free so could register 24 players. Registering Miley on top of that would make us 4 homegrown players and 25 players, but Miley doesn't need to be registered to play so it doesn't make any sense to register him to take up a spot. Might as well leave that slot free in case you need to make an emergency signing of say a Krul/Forster/Woodman in January or something. There's literally no benefit in registering a homegrown under 21 player for Europe and having them take up a spot. They are effectively free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 I thought for every HG player (national or club) you are short - you lose 2 registration slots. So if you are 1 HG player short - you can only register 23 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 Its pretty clear now Longstaff is a good squad player, and needs both Bruno and Joelinton next to him otherwise he doesn't have the presence and gets exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 4 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I’d say he’s the weakest member of the first team now. Not sure he’s even really good enough to be on the bench for a CL team if we’re being totally honest. What people say about the homegrown thing is true, but I would be absolutely fine with selling him if we had a plan for the midfield. Not that I believe anything in the papers about transfers. I take your point and agree with it if going off the eye test. Yet not long ago after a tough start to season without him he came back into the side and we started winning and keeping clean sheets again and the general consensus was “I can’t believe I’m saying this but we miss Longstaff..” etc. I agree though I always feel a tinge of sadness when you sell a local lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 It's tricky with Longstaff because we do seem to have played our best stuff with him in the side. Joelinton and Bruno were by far our most prolific midfielders last season for defensive work, iirc, they got through more tackles, interceptions, clearances than anyone else in that area and they cover distance as well. I'd say Joelinton isn't positionally sound though, his great defensive work seems to be winning duels in central and wide areas but good teams have found him wanting when his back is turned and he's not sure what's behind him - bit of a hallmark of him not traditionally being a mid perhaps. Bruno is great defensively, imo, apart from when covering breaks. Longstaff seems to do the better positional covering than Joelinton and has a bit more athleticism than Bruno, but he's obviously a lot weaker on the ball (does have his moments, tbf). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said: It's tricky with Longstaff because we do seem to have played our best stuff with him in the side. Joelinton and Bruno were by far our most prolific midfielders last season for defensive work, iirc, they got through more tackles, interceptions, clearances than anyone else in that area and they cover distance as well. I'd say Joelinton isn't positionally sound though, his great defensive work seems to be winning duels in central and wide areas but good teams have found him wanting when his back is turned and he's not sure what's behind him - bit of a hallmark of him not traditionally being a mid perhaps. Bruno is great defensively, imo, apart from when covering breaks. Longstaff seems to do the better positional covering than Joelinton and has a bit more athleticism than Bruno, but he's obviously a lot weaker on the ball (does have his moments, tbf). Agree with this, but to take us to the next level we need a bit more quality on the ball. However I think Tonali makes that role his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 We are going to need to sell players at some point for FFP, it's not always going to be a case of shipping out the shite unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, TheHoob said: We are going to need to sell players at some point for FFP, it's not always going to be a case of shipping out the shite unfortunately. Kuol is probably an FFP sell, possibly Minteh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 I don’t see anyone buying Longstaff for significant money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 He has far too much upside to sell imo, for the type of fee we’d get anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 He's not had as good a season as last season so far but I wouldn't be selling him. We should probably look to upgrade him when we can but he's a really valuable option, fills homegrown quota, and when he's on form the whole team tends to look better for it. Nobody is going to pay anything worth selling him for, he'll stay long term imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 (edited) It'd be stupid to sell. Where else are you going to find a decent midfielder that'll happily play a bit part role, if he needs to, due to his love of the club? He's not Paul Dummett. He can actually contribute in a meaningful way (no offence Paul). Edited January 8, 2024 by Weezertron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t see anyone buying Longstaff for significant money. Well that does speak to how highly valued he is from a neutral POV. Obviously there is more attachment from the fans because of the local connection, but ultimately it's what you do on the pitch which makes other teams willing to throw big money for your players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted January 8, 2024 Share Posted January 8, 2024 Scott McTominay Mk II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 13, 2024 Share Posted January 13, 2024 He has to take a yellow for the team in that second half So many times he just lets them to drift past him and he's out of the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 13, 2024 Share Posted January 13, 2024 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: He has to take a yellow for the team in that second half So many times he just lets them to drift past him and he's out of the game He tried at one point but was too soft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted January 13, 2024 Share Posted January 13, 2024 Another anonymous performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted January 13, 2024 Share Posted January 13, 2024 Not working for him at all at the minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 13, 2024 Share Posted January 13, 2024 Good player but ultimately a squad player for me given where we want to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted January 13, 2024 Share Posted January 13, 2024 Either squad player or sell. He isn't good enough to be starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted January 13, 2024 Share Posted January 13, 2024 I have never been a massive fan of his, but at the moment he is dire, absolute waste of a shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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