ToonArmy1892 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Because those are two clubs that always have been rich enough to compete. Manchester United seem to be embracing a new perspective about where they should be. Man united still spend a lot of money. Moreso than they used too. Both of those fans played a big part in removing owners in the past. Likewise the Rangers fans would run Ashley out They are both better at protesting than us, no doubt. Not sure if either have had a boycott of a match like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 The sad thing about all of this is that even if a takeover happens and everything gets back on track, I'm still going to be left feeling utter contempt for a large portion of our fanbase. The damage done by Ashley is immense, really, it goes far beyond what it ever should. Grim. Yup. At this point I'm not sure I'd care all that much even if we were sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 The Rangers fans still haven't fully removed Ashley and that was over a much smaller percentage. Sons of Struth and Spirit of Shankley have both spoken about issues with getting fans inside so it's not specific to us, but I'd maybe agree that there's a higher percentage. Who knows, but it feels that way. In Italy he'd have been long gone years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 The sad thing about all of this is that even if a takeover happens and everything gets back on track, I'm still going to be left feeling utter contempt for a large portion of our fanbase. The damage done by Ashley is immense, really, it goes far beyond what it ever should. Grim. Yup. At this point I'm not sure I'd care all that much even if we were sold. You'd soon get back to supporting the team how you want to support it without having to worry about the plums you're surrounded by or the person running things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 The sad thing about all of this is that even if a takeover happens and everything gets back on track, I'm still going to be left feeling utter contempt for a large portion of our fanbase. The damage done by Ashley is immense, really, it goes far beyond what it ever should. Grim. Yup. At this point I'm not sure I'd care all that much even if we were sold. It's going to be epic man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Ashley wins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Myopic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Because those are two clubs that always have been rich enough to compete. Manchester United seem to be embracing a new perspective about where they should be. Wouldn't happen at West Ham either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Again though, in Ashley there has been an owner who has fundamentally targeted and changed what support means to Newcastle Fans. Liverpool fans were certainly more coherent but this was 8 years ago. Manchester United are still owned by the Glazer Family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I dont think anyone can put this down as an "Ashley wins again" scenario. if he fucks this sale up the backlash will be bigger. the media will call him out, more fans will be on his back and I think TMG will have more support (may be not tens of thousands but certainly more than now). if we boycott wolves game and the sale collapses - TMG loses, the club loses, and Ashley wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I dont think anyone can put this down as an "Ashley wins again" scenario. if he fucks this sale up the backlash will be bigger. the media will call him out, more fans will be on his back and I think TMG will have more support (may be not tens of thousands but certainly more than now). if we boycott wolves game and the sale collapses - TMG loses, the club loses, and Ashley wins. There is no sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I dont think anyone can put this down as an "Ashley wins again" scenario. if he fucks this sale up the backlash will be bigger. the media will call him out, more fans will be on his back and I think TMG will have more support (may be not tens of thousands but certainly more than now). if we boycott wolves game and the sale collapses - TMG loses, the club loses, and Ashley wins. there will be no backlash no-one will call him out no-one will be on his back the boycott would've had zero relevance to the sale of the club (but I do agree that this nonsensical line would've found it's way into the narrative) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 there'll be more people on his back than there are now when the sale inevitably fails. it may only be in the hundreds but there will be more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 there'll be more people on his back than there are now when the sale inevitably fails. it may only be in the hundreds but there will be more. Doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 The boycott was going to be a complete non event, there’s no significant appetite for it. TMG are doing the right thing by calling it off. I agree that this is win win for them, if this all Ashley playing games again TMG will gain much needed match going fan support and you’d like to think the media will be all over him calling him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 All these stupid fan factions man. So many ego's ruining everything. Too many wanting to make names for themselves rather than do good for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 .com had an interesting take: The Magpie Group had been urging fans to boycott this game but they have now dropped that plan in the light of recent developments regarding the club's sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I think February 1st 2019 will be an interesting date in the history of Newcastle United, if we are sitting mid table and have spent a few million in the window and Rafa stays then the whole issue just fades away. If that doesn't happen and Rafa chucks his lot in then I think the overall majority of fans will turn. Rafa is key to this whole situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I dont think anyone can put this down as an "Ashley wins again" scenario. if he fucks this sale up the backlash will be bigger. the media will call him out, more fans will be on his back and I think TMG will have more support (may be not tens of thousands but certainly more than now). if we boycott wolves game and the sale collapses - TMG loses, the club loses, and Ashley wins. I honestly don't think it will be. A few people bumping their gums on social media is as bad as it'll get for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I dont think anyone can put this down as an "Ashley wins again" scenario. if he fucks this sale up the backlash will be bigger. the media will call him out, more fans will be on his back and I think TMG will have more support (may be not tens of thousands but certainly more than now). if we boycott wolves game and the sale collapses - TMG loses, the club loses, and Ashley wins. I honestly don't think it will be. A few people bumping their gums on social media is as bad as it'll get for him. and he knows it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Either way, a potential boycott after it collapses and after a wasted transfer window will have more of an impact than it would tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 If there's no greater appetite for protest if Ashley is still here in February and Rafa has again had zero backing (and the contract remains unsigned), then at least we all know it's done and can go about our lives until the day he does sell (or die). For me that's a very clear line in the sand for the entire support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Rich[/member] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I dont think anyone can put this down as an "Ashley wins again" scenario. if he fucks this sale up the backlash will be bigger. the media will call him out, more fans will be on his back and I think TMG will have more support (may be not tens of thousands but certainly more than now). if we boycott wolves game and the sale collapses - TMG loses, the club loses, and Ashley wins. A backlash? From Newcastle United fans? In 2018? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 It’s weird how seeing something through because you said it is a big enough stick to attack fans against mike Ashley but not to go great guns for the man himself. Going through with the 11th minute was ballsy enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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