Robster Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Agree with both Edwards and Caulkin here. I'm blocked by Douglas. What do Edwards and Caulkin say ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 The media: Steve Bruce has been great this season. Also the media: Why does nobody give Steve Bruce credit? Basically what they are asking is, why dont the fans agree with them? FWIW, Bruce has had a decent season. Sadly though our ambition is to stay in this league, so it's not a high bar. It's another case of pundits occasionally glancing at results, league tables and transfers, and thinking they know better than people who watch every minute of every game and follow every development at the club. And the usual bias towards anyone British. The arrogance of it is pathetic tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 The one comment that irked me was Bruce having to unpack our defensive setup under Rafa. We won 0-4 at Fulham in Rafa's final game and ran Liverpool all the way in his final home game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Bruce mentions Rafa whenever he can which invited comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 That twitter thread is vile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 The media: Steve Bruce has been great this season. Also the media: Why does nobody give Steve Bruce credit? Basically what they are asking is, why dont the fans agree with them? FWIW, Bruce has had a decent season. Sadly though our ambition is to stay in this league, so it's not a high bar. It's another case of pundits occasionally glancing at results, league tables and transfers, and thinking they know better than people who watch every minute of every game and follow every development at the club. And the usual bias towards anyone British. The arrogance of it is pathetic tbh. And the majority of their audience are the same, in regards to clubs other than their own. They'll read something about another club, check the tables/stats, and agree with the reporter/pundit. Reporter gets a good [lazily built] reputation. On-screen pundits have the added benefit of displaying the table/stats simultaneously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Nobody should engage with Edwards on twitter. Paid to be a troll. Block or mute the weirdo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Nobody should be on twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I decided during the Pardew reign never to tell a fan of another club about their own side/manager, provided they weren't a complete moron. When other fans, and even some of our own, were telling us Pardew was doing a good job, that was it for me. He then moved on to Palace and West Brom where both then understood what we had been telling them all along. For example, Liverpool fans tell us Jordan Henderson is excellent. My instinct is to say "na hes pretty average", but given that they have won the league and they watch him every game, they are in a better position to judge than me. That's what is happening with Bruce right now. I've watched him and I know where about he ranks in the managerial pyramid (somewhere above Pardew but well below Rafa), but just like with Pardew and Big Sam before him, other people know better. Little old Newcastle should know when they have a good thing. They should be happy to survive. They should be happy to exist. No thanks, I'd rather hang onto the unrealistic but romantic idea of ambition and of trying to be the very best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Agree with both Edwards and Caulkin here. Stunning lack of self-awareness from Douglas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Ultimately I think Steve Bruce could have us in or about the top 4/6 if he was given a massive amount to spend. Mark Hughes did it. But I also think he would come up short in the same manner when it came to winning trophies, but that’s just my opinion, I haven’t a clue how well he could do. Any manager is only ever a couple of signings or a couple of sales away from being brilliant or total dogshit. Take Ole for example. Ridiculed for much of the season. Did a shrewd bit of business in Bruno Fernandez and suddenly that conversation is a thing of the past. With NUFC, throw in a decent striker, a proper holding midfielder and a playmaker as well as a new left and right back and things could suddenly start looking very different. Case in point. One of Klopp’s first Liverpool XI.. how far do you think he could have pushed this lot? Top 8 maybe? If that’s all Liverpool ever allowed him to use, would that have made him a shit manager at PL level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Bruce would never have us top 6 even if he was given a blank chequebook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Bruce would never have us top 6 even if he was given a blank chequebook. I disagree money speaks volumes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Bruce would never have us top 6 even if he was given a blank chequebook. I disagree money speaks volumes How much have Everton spent over the last few seasons, or to a lesser extent West Ham? Spending money is all well and good providing you're not signing duds (obviously) and you have a good manager to coach them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Bruce would never have us top 6 even if he was given a blank chequebook. I disagree money speaks volumes How'd he get on in the Championship a couple of seasons ago when Villa spent a lot of money ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Bruce would never have us top 6 even if he was given a blank chequebook. I disagree money speaks volumes How'd he get on in the Championship a couple of seasons ago when Villa spent a lot of money ? £12m for Scott Hogan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Fucking hell, Ashley isn't even the biggest problem. It's our own fucking fans man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Ultimately I think Steve Bruce could have us in or about the top 4/6 if he was given a massive amount to spend. Mark Hughes did it. But I also think he would come up short in the same manner when it came to winning trophies, but that’s just my opinion, I haven’t a clue how well he could do. Any manager is only ever a couple of signings or a couple of sales away from being brilliant or total dogshit. Take Ole for example. Ridiculed for much of the season. Did a shrewd bit of business in Bruno Fernandez and suddenly that conversation is a thing of the past. With NUFC, throw in a decent striker, a proper holding midfielder and a playmaker as well as a new left and right back and things could suddenly start looking very different. Case in point. One of Klopp’s first Liverpool XI.. how far do you think he could have pushed this lot? Top 8 maybe? If that’s all Liverpool ever allowed him to use, would that have made him a shit manager at PL level? I'd never heard of Randall before this post. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 f***ing hell, Ashley isn't even the biggest problem. It's our own f***ing fans man. Class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Ha ha ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Incredible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Without being arsed to look up Steve Bruce's PL manager history, could this be his highest league finish with a club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Ha ha ha We're 13th. What's going on, is this all an elaborate media windup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Without being arsed to look up Steve Bruce's PL manager history, could this be his highest league finish with a club? 10th with Sunderland IIRC with Benty, Gyany and Welbecky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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