TK-421 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Looking at upcoming fixtures, I can realistically see Bruce being 'manager' for the next 2, maybe 3 matches depedning how the next 2 go with Jones giving his 'neutral' opinons/advice. He'll be allowed to lose at Everton but then we'll be expected to beat Palace up here. If we lose that, he'll be gone and Jones will have a home match against Southampton to try and get something before inevitable losses at Chelsea and Man Utd. Then we need to see what the teams below us have done, and if we are closer to the bottom 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 He may as well have said "I'm here to paint the place before Rafa arrives" Don't really see any connection to Rafa tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 The way Jones was talking it seems he's been brought in to take over for sure. The bit he says about getting the best players on the pitch and getting the best out of them was very interesting, when you consider how Bruce has been slating the players after having spent £100 million since coming in. I'm pretty sure MA did not appreciate that. Jones has a lot of really good experience with Martinez but his managerial experience is very light. Bringing him in after sacking Bruce would bring a lot more scrutiny rather than bringing him in initially as assistant head coach and then letting him take over once Bruce is gone. I think he'll eventually take over as manager and I am all for it. Far more hope under him than Bruce IMO. If this guy is really being brought in to be the manager it’s a worse appointment than kinnear. At least kinnear was an actual manager. This guy failed in the championship, even Bruce was doing a reasonable job in the championship ffs I’ll never understand Mike Ashley and I’d rather not have to try I know nowt about this guy but I'd rather give a chance to a somewhat progressive coach, even if he turns out shit, than a 90s dinosaur or PL has been. I'm not so sure his Luton spell is a fair assessment. Only in MA world would this be the choice mind. I was exaggerating to make the point how ridiculous it is pinning our hopes on this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Luton are shite are they not? Apparently they improved dramatically after he left. Not sticking up for a another Ashley patsy, but Brendan Rodgers's stint at Reading was a car crash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. Agree, much like when Dean Smith took over from him at Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. Again...what exactly in Jones record makes anyone think he's going to improve us? Unless I've missed something I don't see much past a few years of mediocrity at low level. Fair enough if he was 20, but this guy is 50 and isn't exactly a newby to coaching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. HP Sauce ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. Again...what exactly in Jones record makes anyone think he's going to improve us? Unless I've missed something I don't see much past a few years of mediocrity at low level. Fair enough if he was 20, but this guy is 50 and isn't exactly a newby to coaching Lots of great assistant coaches that don't make the grade as a manager/head coach. If he can get shit down behind the scenes then great - even if it's getting the players settled and training properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Can it get much worse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. Again...what exactly in Jones record makes anyone think he's going to improve us? Unless I've missed something I don't see much past a few years of mediocrity at low level. Fair enough if he was 20, but this guy is 50 and isn't exactly a newby to coaching I understand your point completely. My statement was a 100% wishful thinking believe me, It's just what I would love to see happen. The guy has at least been in and around successful environments and has worked with some really talented players also, and so who knows, we might luck out with him somehow. Here's hoping. If the alternative is Bruce we all know how that is going to end anyway. We know MA isn't going to bring in a top manager that is going to be more demanding of him and so our only hope is a guy who is more of a head coach that has more current and legitimate ideas that can get more out of our players. We can only just hope that his lack of success at Luton was more down to a lack of technical players to carry out his ideas. Between Wilson, Almiron, ASM and Fraser he will have 4 players with more than enough of that ability, that should be able to cause a lot of problems going forward, who haven't been allowed to yet under Bruce almighty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. Again...what exactly in Jones record makes anyone think he's going to improve us? Unless I've missed something I don't see much past a few years of mediocrity at low level. Fair enough if he was 20, but this guy is 50 and isn't exactly a newby to coaching Lots of great assistant coaches that don't make the grade as a manager/head coach. If he can get shit down behind the scenes then great - even if it's getting the players settled and training properly Bournemouth fans don’t seem to rate him as a assistant coach either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. Presuming it'll cost more to sack him than they've offered in resignation money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 His agent has probably advised against it, especially if there's a big discrepancy between the two figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 His agent has probably advised against it, especially if there's a big discrepancy between the two figures. Your source still hopeful of the takeover happening though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. Again...what exactly in Jones record makes anyone think he's going to improve us? Unless I've missed something I don't see much past a few years of mediocrity at low level. Fair enough if he was 20, but this guy is 50 and isn't exactly a newby to coaching Lots of great assistant coaches that don't make the grade as a manager/head coach. If he can get shit down behind the scenes then great - even if it's getting the players settled and training properly Bournemouth fans don’t seem to rate him as a assistant coach either Was that before or after he dumped them? lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 More punishments in the next few weeks for Bruce "Mike Ashley announces club dust tax" "NUFC agree canteen catering deal with Veggie Plant Kitchen" "Newcastle Council: people with middle name Roger banned from local takeaways" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 His agent has probably advised against it, especially if there's a big discrepancy between the two figures. Your source still hopeful of the takeover happening though? Actually, yes but that's his personal opinion as he's no longer privy to the information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Imagine someone asking you if you want to resign and still sticking around for the payoff. If he had any morals he would have quit and then taken them to arbitration for constructive dismissal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Jones also referred to Rafa’s balance and control philosophy in the NUFC TV interview by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is. As long as he's only been appointed to see us safely avoid relegation. Would not like to think he's any sort of long term solution as that can only mean the takeover is going nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. I don't know what Jones' situation was down at Bournemouth but why on earth would you leave a job and come and join an utter shit show of a situation like this. I bet the tension around the club is palpable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. I don't know what Jones' situation was down at Bournemouth but why on earth would you leave a job and come and join an utter shit show of a situation like this. I bet the tension around the club is palpable. More money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Be interested to know who is advising Ashley to get Jones, no, way he or any of the people around him would have had any knowledge of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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