Yorkie Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I'd love to know the truth behind the transfer, like. Certainly nowt to do with football. It's difficult to know if there's a player in there because, like ASM and Miggy: that triumvirate is a non-starter, the whole system is non-existent and there's nothing on the training ground to help him refine whatever talent he has. But he's basically looked like Shola so far. He can hold it up and takes some knocking off the ball; there's even some wild skills thrown in there on occasion. But his touch is heavy and he doesn't score much. It's Shola all over. Take my £40m and not a penny less! Whatever. Lying cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Definitely a dodgy agent deal with him and ASM having the same agent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Come back Joselu, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 This was not a footballing transfer. Never in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I'd love to know the truth behind the transfer, like. Certainly nowt to do with football. It's difficult to know if there's a player in there because, like ASM and Miggy: that triumvirate is a non-starter, the whole system is non-existent and there's nothing on the training ground to help him refine whatever talent he has. But he's basically looked like Shola so far. He can hold it up and takes some knocking off the ball; there's even some wild skills thrown in there on occasion. But his touch is heavy and he doesn't score much. It's Shola all over. Take my £40m and not a penny less! Whatever. Lying cunts. Peak Shola would have more goals this season than Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Striker isn't even his natural position. Think all of us can see that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I really hope he starts Carroll or Gayle in the next few games just to put to rest that they’d do any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I really hope he starts Carroll or Gayle in the next few games just to put to rest that they’d do any better. Totally agree. And it’s highly likely because he’s a fucking goon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Striker isn't even his natural position. Think all of us can see that. This has been obvious since day 1.no idea why we are persisting with this farce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 He was left isolated again. ASM and Almirón play too wide to support him. He needs support from more central positions. Shelvey just lumping the ball forward for him won’t do much when he has 2 CB’s and a CDM around him. He actually came to collect the ball from deep a few times, especially in the 2nd half. He does have that about him, but still lacks the support he needs afterwards. His shot in the first half summed up how the lack of support does not help him. He held the ball up for ages, managed to get past 3 defenders, and still had no one helping him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The alternative’s even worse. Joelinton was actually holding the ball up, Carroll came on and apart from one shot, the ball was bouncing off him, he was falling over...shocking. That is what I saw as well. We actually looked worse up top when Carroll and Gayle were battling for the knockdowns than when Joelinton was on his own. Bruce must think we can turn the clock back to 2010. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Striker isn't even his natural position. Think all of us can see that. This has been obvious since day 1.no idea why we are persisting with this farce. Where should be playing in this team instead though? I like him but I'm not seeing what would make him much better on the right or left or further back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Striker isn't even his natural position. Think all of us can see that. This has been obvious since day 1.no idea why we are persisting with this farce. Where should be playing in this team instead though? I like him but I'm not seeing what would make him much better on the right or left or further back. I actually thought of the front three he was the least erratic. I think he is the best option up front, but we need more from the wide forwards if he's going to be effective. In truth, Almiron and Maximin have produced no end product from wide positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I really hope he starts Carroll or Gayle in the next few games just to put to rest that they’d do any better. That’s not really the point. He bloody can’t hit a strike on goal, he can’t create space for himself, every shot is over or blocked. We need him to be better and rise up to the challenge. But who cares I guess. This club is rotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Absolutely no support or service, Bruce using him all wrong unsurprisingly. "Big Joe" ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 True too. He’s being used horribly, not set up for success, no support, mostly isolated. And then you add in his already low confidence. Bloody horrendous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I never doubt his quality. I think it’s pretty obvious. But I am now very concerned about his mentality that he seems already fed up with Bruce and the rest of the team and thus didn’t perform 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 The moment in the first half when he broke and there was literally no support with him for 40 yards summed it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Forgot Muto existed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Feel sorry for the lad and can't tell how good he is/or not. He battles away on his own and rarely do any of our players get within 20 yards of him. That time on the first half when he was trying to bustle his way through and eveyrone just stands and watches. Compare this to how close Rondon and Perez played and knitted together. Can't blame the manager though 'cause he's one of us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 All three big money strikers from central Europe - Haller, Wesley and Joelinton - seem to be really struggling. I thought Wesley was terrible last night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Awful again yesterday, to be fair to him it's hard to play as a striker when your starting position is your own half, but one certain plays he could've done much better than he did he is a 40m striker after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 All three big money strikers from central Europe - Haller, Wesley and Joelinton - seem to be really struggling. I thought Wesley was terrible last night Kean as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I haven’t seen enough to comment on him, but I’d be surprised if he’s as bad as he looks atm. Does good work literally everywhere on the pitch but the box. Shots blocked, or skied over. When he actually does have a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 It may just be confidence, but his whole body shape looks wrong when he is shooting. Our system, with few chances and him mostly isolated, is not designed to let him develop confidence either. The main thing though is the folly in not just signing Rondon, someone proven to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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