Montey Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, Dokko said: Very surprised Ashley hasn't gone 2 feet in to the PL after yesterdays announcement. Is it that this is what they wanted for reasons such as the other case has more chance or is he pissed at his own legal team for letting him down. If PIF haven't disclosed something again he needs to cancel the takeover and invite other offers as it'll never pass if they aren't playing ball. This (the lack of criticism by Ashley) is my glimmer of hope that this is a tactical decision on Ashley's side. If the delay was entirely due to the Premier League I would expect Ashley to put on the cleats and go in hard with both feet. The fact that he hasn't suggests that the delay is not entirely (if at all) caused by the Premier League. If the delay to arbitration is because of an alleged lack of disclosure by the buying consortium (i.e. PIF) then it's a question of whether the arbitration tribunal has unfairly made such a decision or whether the consortium really hasn't disclosed sufficient information. We're not likely to find this out until sometime after the arbitration process is completed. But, if it was because of the PIF then I think there is a reasonable chance that Ashley will start talking to other potential buyers and if one of these firms up then I expect Ashley will make a "tire kickers" comment about PIF shortly afterwards (as he did for other suiters). Also, if the delay is because the arbitration panel has made an unjust decision (delaying when no delay was necessary) then I expect this will be folded into the CAT cases as further evidence of anti-competitive behaviour. The last possibility is that Ashley has deliberately incurred this delay for his own reasons (possibly to cause CAT to happen first, possibly for other reasons we're unaware of). If the delay has been caused by Ashley I can only presume he believes such a delay helps him to complete the sale of the club. This is my glimmer of hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Montey said: This (the lack of criticism by Ashley) is my glimmer of hope that this is a tactical decision on Ashley's side. If the delay was entirely due to the Premier League I would expect Ashley to put on the cleats and go in hard with both feet. The fact that he hasn't suggests that the delay is not entirely (if at all) caused by the Premier League. If the delay to arbitration is because of an alleged lack of disclosure by the buying consortium (i.e. PIF) then it's a question of whether the arbitration tribunal has unfairly made such a decision or whether the consortium really hasn't disclosed sufficient information. We're not likely to find this out until sometime after the arbitration process is completed. But, if it was because of the PIF then I think there is a reasonable chance that Ashley will start talking to other potential buyers and if one of these firms up then I expect Ashley will make a "tire kickers" comment about PIF shortly afterwards (as he did for other suiters). Also, if the delay is because the arbitration panel has made an unjust decision (delaying when no delay was necessary) then I expect this will be folded into the CAT cases as further evidence of anti-competitive behaviour. The last possibility is that Ashley has deliberately incurred this delay for his own reasons (possibly to cause CAT to happen first, possibly for other reasons we're unaware of). If the delay has been caused by Ashley I can only presume he believes such a delay helps him to complete the sale of the club. This is my glimmer of hope. It's a mad old long shot, but it's about the only glimmer of hope left. Thankfully I'm numb again after a complete internal rage over the delay. It's much easier this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Dokko said: Very surprised Ashley hasn't gone 2 feet in to the PL after yesterdays announcement. Is it that this is what they wanted for reasons such as the other case has more chance or is he pissed at his own legal team for letting him down. If PIF haven't disclosed something again he needs to cancel the takeover and invite other offers as it'll never pass if they aren't playing ball. The best thing for everyone now is for Ashley to make a statement confirming the takeover is over and let everyone get on with their lives. If things are going on in the background let them go on without anyone knowing. I just don’t see a way back from here personally, particularly after the tweet last night from Amanda’s husband. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, jonbobson said: We still only have Edwards/Jacobs reporting that it was both sides that failed to disclose? Strange that only they "know" this. ? The Newcastle statement suggests it was to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, jonbobson said: We still only have Edwards/Jacobs reporting that it was both sides that failed to disclose? Strange that only they "know" this. ? Edwards/Jacobs are about as trustworthy as Keith, Wraith and that dentist bloke. In the cold light of day, after being livid last night, it's probably time to step back away. Whether there is legs in this takeover yet or another one on the horizon the fact is we've got at least another season of the Steve's and Charnley. I won't be hanging around to witness that and I'm not holding my breath for a takeover, there's been enough waiting around now. Don't believe a word anyone says unless it comes from 1 of 3 parties, even then take it with a pinch of salt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, jonbobson said: We still only have Edwards/Jacobs reporting that it was both sides that failed to disclose? Strange that only they "know" this. ? And if they're admitting that the PL are even partly to blame that means the PL must be predominantly or entirely to blame. Even if it was both sides that failed to disclose things, the PL are the governing body of the premier competition of our national sport, they should have absolutely nothing to hide and no issue with disclosing anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 If it’s the Premier League who have failed to provide sufficient evidence, then they should just lose the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, jonbobson said: The parties attended a hearing today in the case between Newcastle United and the Premier League. The main hearing of the arbitration has regrettably now been adjourned until early 2022 due to issues with the disclosure of evidence. The parties will be making no further comment at this time. Exactly so compare that with previous statements with us blaming the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: The Newcastle statement suggests it was to be fair. Mehrdad Ghodoussi’s tweet says to me he thinks the premier league are twisting again though. Fuck knows. Im washing my hands of the thing now. Once again we’ve been treated like shit and we’ll do absolutely nothing about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 We all know that the club will have tried and failed to pull a fast one. Keegan/Jonas was enough warning that there’d be an element of chancing their arm again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Does anybody need a reason to stay off twitter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Due to the volume and NDA Jesus christ. Just fuck off man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Not watching it but I’ll take a punt that they are overwhelmingly positive yet don’t address staveley’s husbands negative tweet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, gdm said: Not watching it but I’ll take a punt that they are overwhelmingly positive yet don’t address staveley’s husbands negative tweet Correct. They’ve not even mentioned it. Just fluffed up CAT case a bit more to tee up their own sense of self importance. Apparently the fall out will see Masters and Hoffman’s position with the league become untenable? Never heard so much shit in all my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, gdm said: Not watching it but I’ll take a punt that they are overwhelmingly positive yet don’t address staveley’s husbands negative tweet He's clearly playing along too. De Marco has planned it all from the start. So, early predictions were that the PL would settle out of court. Everyone still in on that one? Should find out in the next 4 weeks I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: Correct. They’ve not even mentioned it. Just fluffed up CAT case a bit more to tee up their own sense of self importance. Apparently the fall out will see Masters and Hoffman’s position with the league become untenable? Never heard so much shit in all my life. And they'll be proven to be bullshitters yet again in the next few weeks when the CAT jurisdiction hearing is listed and we find out that it is months and months away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, Wilson said: Due to the volume and NDA Jesus christ. Just fuck off man. We're one step away from him saying it would be an ecumenical matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Wraith etc are a bunch of creepy cunts looking for traction , DO NOT GIVE THEM IT. I listened to him on TS and feel he got rinsed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 D.T.A. Don't trust anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Joey Linton said: Who is this Sean Casey. Is he anyone we can trust or just another bullshitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Lasted 9 mins of that. load of bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bishops Finger said: Who is this Sean Casey. Is he anyone we can trust or just another bullshitter I wouldn't trust a word he says, seems to be well in with ET's boyfriend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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