Froggy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, r0cafella said: The American blaming is so cringe. I wasn't blaming Americans sorry. I was just suggesting that it was Joel Glazer who made those comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: The American blaming is so cringe. I mean it's being bankrolled entirely by American money and follows a structure similar to US competition rules. Forgive me if I feel a bit resentful. Of course yes, not the people etc the business mentality etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If the players collectively came together and refused to participate that would kill the proposals stone dead, surely? The branding of the 'superstars' are just as important as the clubs' - otherwise you end up with a league like China's where the Super League is just made up of 30 year old mercenaries like Dembele and Dries Mertens. Money talks though, obviously, and if they can really have their salaries multiplied by five then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ElDiablo said: I mean it's being bankrolled entirely by American money and follows a structure similar to US competition rules. Forgive me if I feel a bit resentful. Of course yes, not the people etc the business mentality etc. This doesn’t exist in a vacuum. UK society has, for the most part, spent the better part of 30 years welcoming foreign investment in the interest of growing the English game to be more competitive. Why do we think the “Premier League” was created? What was wrong with just having a First Division? The Glazers, et. al. can eat shit...the misplaced sense of victimhood is what’s cringe. Like this is something being done to English football, rather than the natural product of decades of partnership. Edited April 19, 2021 by Tomato Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I’m guessing it’s not a coincidence that they’re trying to push this through when there aren’t any fans in the ground to gan mental over it? Pure evil fuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, buzz said: If the players collectively came together and refused to participate that would kill the proposals stone dead, surely? The branding of the 'superstars' are just as important as the clubs' - otherwise you end up with a league like China's where the Super League is just made up of 30 year old mercenaries like Dembele and Dries Mertens. Money talks though, obviously, and if they can really have their salaries multiplied by five then... Dries Mertens has been at Napoli for like a decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Tomato Deuce said: This doesn’t exist in a vacuum. UK society has, for the most part, spent the better part of 30 years welcoming foreign investment in the interest of growing the English game to be more competitive. Why do we think the “Premier League” was created? What was wrong with just having a First Division? I think there's a clear difference - the PL closed the shop to some extent but in essence it's still a competitive structure. This isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, ElDiablo said: I think there's a clear difference - the PL closed the shop to some extent but in essence it's still a competitive structure. This isn't. and the PL was created in cooperation with the FA and the UK government at the time, this is going against everyone one of those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: This doesn’t exist in a vacuum. UK society has, for the most part, spent the better part of 30 years welcoming foreign investment in the interest of growing the English game to be more competitive. Why do we think the “Premier League” was created? What was wrong with just having a First Division? The Glazers, et. al. can eat shit...the misplaced sense of victimhood is what’s cringe. Like this is something being done to English football, rather than the natural product of decades of partnership. If i remember correctly, the hillborough tragedy had a lot to do with setting up the premiership due the cost in upgrading 20+ stadiums to the recommended safety levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I hope this isn't all they've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxsln Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Anderson said: Wonder if it means PSG are genuinely opposed to it, rather than just biding their time while they're still in CL. They have to wait until after the World Cup. If Qatar-owned PSG joins ESL, FIFA will probably move to the World Cup from Qatar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Now would be a great time to grow the power of the players’ unions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I mean, there's no point joining later. They've designed it to only work for the founders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: I mean, there's no point joining later. They've designed it to only work for the founders. I'm sure they'd give them special dispensation. They make the rules, after all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: I mean, there's no point joining later. They've designed it to only work for the founders. They certainly haven’t incentivized other clubs to join if that Twitter thread posted earlier is right re: payouts. Which is comically short-sighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, lxsln said: They have to wait until after the World Cup. If Qatar-owned PSG joins ESL, FIFA will probably move to the World Cup from Qatar. Fucking mess the lot of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Would be good to get a big name like Messi coming out and fucking it off, saying he'd rather have his final World Cup appearance or whatever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Mint if real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Think I was harsh on Neville yesterday. Warming to him today. Edited April 19, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) "American blaming" What do people expect like? It's the brainchild of American ownership, funded by a US investment bank, with the intention to creating a closed shop system akin to US sports. Nobody is blaming American footy fans - but it's clearly the result of US capitalists' motivations. Edited April 19, 2021 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Any player or manager who doesn’t come out stamping their feet in protest is a coward. We will find out who has principles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: "American blaming" What do people expect like? It's the brainchild of American ownership, funded by a US investment bank, with the intention to creating a closed shop system akin to US sports. Nobody is blaming American footy fans - but it's clearly the result of US capitalist's motivations. Aye, American investment too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Collage said: Mint if real Sadly not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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