Yorkie Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I couldn't agree more with his point about fans being exploited and not actually having won anything. Of course they haven't, and it's an insult to the intelligence of any football fan to assume that line can be taken seriously. Anyone in the media trumpeting the contribution of protesters needs to give their head a shake and realise they're playing into the hands of the PR recovery of these clubs/individuals. Don't get me started on anyone feeling the need to offer even the remotest bit of praise or respect to any of the architects of this whole escapade. Pathetic behaviour helping no one, when this could actually be used as an opportunity to provoke real reforms. I had Talksport on (for my sins) to and from Aldi last night when the first bricks were starting to crumble. They were practically jumping on their desks popping champagne bottles screeching "the fans have done it! A great day for football!" Please. It's been a shameful episode and despite my (very strongly pro) views on protest and the potential it has to make a difference in football, a few banners saying "No" and "RIP LFC" had precisely fuck all to do with the collapse of the ESL last night. There's fans outside Stamford Bridge blocking the team bus! Quick! Cancel the several-billion pound deal! That fans are now being sucked up to - with John Henry et al claiming they're the reason for backtracking - is just the latest move in exploiting fans/consumers at every turn. Disingenuous waffle designed to limit the damage as much at conceivably possible. I don't know why it collapsed and I don't even feel particularly clear on why it was proposed, or if there was any real conviction or genuine hopes that it would come to pass. Who the fuck knows what sort power plays at that level of the game truly entail. But I feel absolutely certain that 'fan power' had very little to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 AC Milan now out, only Barca, Real Madrid and Juventus left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 AC MILAN pulling out now... and then there was 3 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The saddest thing of this whole affair, is that we've "saved football" for it to rest again in the loving, caring hands of UEFA and FIFA. We probably need the whole thing to burn down and be remade anew. Although the rebuilding would probably be something crass and repulsive too, these are the times we live in. Christ I feel old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Love this from paddy power “Turns out Chelsea and Man City are withdrawing from the European Super League after their fans were outraged at a grotesque influx of money from abroad creating mass inequality between clubs.“ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Barnes is spot on. In the short term, what we need is Arsenal and Tottenham to continue their demise. Hopefully Kane goes this summer and their post Mourinho appointment is another disaster. The loss of revenue and their stadium debt with continued off the field poor showings will hopefully force them to scale back. Same with Arsenal, hopefully more board level conflicts cause them to fail again and again. Aye if Tottenham and Arsenal had a few years or more in mid table it would shatter the “big 6” once and for all. Shame I can’t see Man City, manure, chelsea or Liverpool dropping out the top 6. Hopefully we have more Leicesters and West Ham’s over the next few years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Yorkie said: Zesty? Very zesty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, CalmintheChaos said: Love this from paddy power “Turns out Chelsea and Man City are withdrawing from the European Super League after their fans were outraged at a grotesque influx of money from abroad creating mass inequality between clubs.“ I’ve never really understood the idea that those clubs created inequality. It’s not like the other rich clubs haven’t been able to compete financially. The amount teams like Man U, Barca, Real, and Juve spend is disgusting. Chelsea and Man City merely added to the number of super rich clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, CalmintheChaos said: Aye if Tottenham and Arsenal had a few years or more in mid table it would shatter the “big 6” once and for all. Shame I can’t see Man City, manure, chelsea or Liverpool dropping out the top 6. Hopefully we have more Leicesters and West Ham’s over the next few years Would just go back to the 'big 4', and before that it was the 'big 2', Arsenal and Man U. Just elitist shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Anyone else gutted our 6 legacy clubs withdrew, I was hoping they’d fuck off for good and leave the real footy stuff up to the real proper clubs who don’t share their grande delusions and grotesque greed at the expense of, well, the whole of football. If they don’t receive severe punishment (the owners/directors at least) then this means nothing and they will more than likely be even more powerful domestically. Throw the book at them, fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HTT II said: Anyone else gutted our 6 legacy clubs withdrew, I was hoping they’d fuck off for good and leave the real footy stuff up to the real proper clubs who don’t share their grande delusions and grotesque greed at the expense of, well, the whole of football. If they don’t receive severe punishment (the owners/directors at least) then this means nothing and they will more than likely be even more powerful domestically. Throw the book at them, fuck them. Yep. Was thinking it might of been the reset football needed with them grovelling to come back within 2 years starting at the bottom of the pyramid. Edited April 21, 2021 by LFEE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Apparently clubs going after UEFA now to change the new UCL layout already ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Yep. Was thinking it might of been the reset football needed with them grovelling to come back within 2 years starting at the bottom of the pyramid. Aye, that’s what I was hoping for. Hopefully (I doubt it) they will really live to regret this in the coming months and years, a huge fan backlash is needed once we are allowed back into stadium,s supporters trusts up and down the country need to form their own alliance and become, well basically a fan version of the Premier Legaue and look to get a seat in on that board too and indeed our clubs. Edited April 21, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, HTT II said: Anyone else gutted our 6 legacy clubs withdrew, I was hoping they’d fuck off for good and leave the real footy stuff up to the real proper clubs who don’t share their grande delusions and grotesque greed at the expense of, well, the whole of football. If they don’t receive severe punishment (the owners/directors at least) then this means nothing and they will more than likely be even more powerful domestically. Throw the book at them, fuck them. Yeah, after yesterdays fun at watching it all crumble, today's feeling is more of a "oh, so back to normal then? :undecided:". Doesn't look like there'll be any punishment, nothing will change and the Greedy 6 have shown that they indeed have all the power in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, HTT II said: Anyone else gutted our 6 legacy clubs withdrew, I was hoping they’d fuck off for good and leave the real footy stuff up to the real proper clubs who don’t share their grande delusions and grotesque greed at the expense of, well, the whole of football. If they don’t receive severe punishment (the owners/directors at least) then this means nothing and they will more than likely be even more powerful domestically. Throw the book at them, fuck them. I was devastated, still am. People celebrating Man City and Chelsea remaining in the league is beyond me. Villa, Leeds and Newcastle fans etc are basically celebrating the top 4 remaining a closed shop for 90% of the next 10 seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: Apparently clubs going after UEFA now to change the new UCL layout already ? Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Juve out now. Kind of... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Did the spuds fans protest, or was it just fans of every other club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said: Link? Just heard it on a news report on the radio. Something to keep an eye on I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Gary Lineker going on like it's a great day for football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 UEFA have completely squandered their unmitigated leverage by pushing through those ridiculous Swiss Model reforms to the competition, even while all this was collapsing. Morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, BlueStar said: Liverpool are the worst. The grief I was getting from mates who support them over Saudi involvement in our takeover was along the lines of "they'll have tarnished football for me". Right, because you lot have contributed so much to the greater good of the game. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I can't help but think about Mike Ashley and the way the media has defended him consistently over the last 10+ years. It's only very recently that they discovered he was a bad egg, seemingly because Steve Bruce must be defended and Ashley is a good way to deflect criticism. Now suddenly fans and the media are united in saving football. It's perverse. Burn it all down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said: Gary Lineker going on like it's a great day for football. If there was ever a bloke that "rides with the tide" it's Lineker. Grow a pair, Gary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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