Guest reefatoon Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Yeah, he was unlucky to have been subbed when he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Can't blame him for being upset with that sub as he was giving it everything, hopefully he'll be fresh for Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Back in January there was an article at the Athletic titled “Liverpool Need the Next Wijnaldum” that has some really interesting things to say about Joe Willock. Makes sense that Klopp is an admirer. Edited January 23, 2023 by gazza ladra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, gazza ladra said: Back in January there was an article at the Athletic titled “Liverpool Need the Next Wijnaldum” that has some really interesting things to say about Joe Willock. Makes sense that Klopp is an admirer. Anything similar available for Longstaff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Anything similar available for Longstaff? Nah, it’s from an article for Liverpool supporters that addresses their needs. The two players they identified that most closely matched Winjaldum were Pedri and Willock. They expanded the the search to include more distant matches and came up with Nicollo Barella, Azzedine Ounahi, and Salis Abdul Samed. Quote Willock is above average, although not to the same level as Wijnaldum, at retaining the ball (64 out of 99) and frequently plays shorter passes to link play (72 out of 99), while he has a high tendency of carrying the ball (carry and dribble volume, 93 out of 99). The 24-year-old’s defensive intensity (73 out of 99) is the opposite to Wijnaldum and while he is not as effective as the Netherlands international, Willock is still slightly above average in his defensive impact (52 out of 99). The big difference between the two players is the attacking output. While Wijnaldum ranked highly in receptions in the opposition box (76 out of 99), he is below average in the other three attacking categories. Willock scores extremely highly in every category from receptions in the box often (96 out of 99), to shooting often (shot volume, 95 out of 99). He provides creativity both from ball progression (85 out of 99) and contribution towards his team’s chances (xG from shot creation, 93 out of 99). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 This was his worst game in a bit. nothing seemed to come off for him tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I noticed him more defensively than usual. But he lacks any composure in the final third. Different players. But both he and Longstaff are great in this system until they get anywhere near the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 It will click for him eventually. The way he carries the ball is so important to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Didn't have the best of games yesterday but you see what he brings to the team, like many others just needs to find some composure in the final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Thought he was good apart from his shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 We have so many players that can’t strike a ball cleanly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, McCormick said: We have so many players that can’t strike a ball cleanly. Willock, Joelinton, Longstaff, most often Almiron. It’s also the time it takes themselves to setup for a shot, angle their bodies, sort out their feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Willock with clinical end product is a £60m + player. Willock at the moment is probably worth exactly what we paid for him. Personally, I think he’s too old to develop much more beyond where he is now but I’d love to be proven wrong. He’s a great squad member and does a lot of hard work but we need better if we’re aiming for the top honours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I can’t remember those goals he scored to keep us up, did he put his laces through any and strike them cleanly or was it side footers etc? He’s got quite nice technique at placement but when he tries to put his foot through it, it all goes wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Willock with clinical end product is a £60m + player. Willock at the moment is probably worth exactly what we paid for him. Personally, I think he’s too old to develop much more beyond where he is now but I’d love to be proven wrong. He’s a great squad member and does a lot of hard work but we need better if we’re aiming for the top honours. If Gordon is up to 50m with his stats Wilock is at least the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, r0cafella said: If Gordon is up to 50m with his stats Wilock is at least the same. Gordon scores and creates goals. That's my whole point. Willock does the hard work and then more often than not, fails to finish it off with something meaningful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Willock last night when he just opened up and put on the burners couldn’t be played against. Shame he couldn’t keep his head over the ball twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Gordon scores and creates goals. That's my whole point. Willock does the hard work and then more often than not, fails to finish it off with something meaningful. Please check his stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Gordon scores and creates goals. That's my whole point. Willock does the hard work and then more often than not, fails to finish it off with something meaningful. Willock has more goal involvements than Gordon though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said: Willock last night when he just opened up and put on the burners couldn’t be played against. Shame he couldn’t keep his head over the ball twice. The same can be said for Adama Traore in every game he's ever played Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) According to whatever site i've just looked at, Willock has 2 goals and 2 assists this season, in a team challenging for Champions League places. Gordon has 3 goals and 0 assists in a team rooted to the bottom of the table. It's hardly chasm between them. All of Willock's stats are skewed by that one purple patch he had when he first joined the club. And if you take it purely on stats, you ignore all of the things he didn't do when he should've, like score two goals last night and bag an assist as well (the things you see with your eyes). Stats only explain part of the picture. If Willock added end product to his game, he'd finish every season with goals and stats in double figures. There's a reason he doesn't. I should add that I don't dislike Willock by the way, we just need better. We also have a guy sat on the bench who terrifies defenders and will get double figures if he's ever allowed to start. Edited January 25, 2023 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Thought he did brilliantly for our second goal yesterday yet his passing was way off at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 He was excellent at the outset then seemed to switch off at 2-0. It's all mentality with Willock, as he matures and if he keeps his burst of speed, he should only get better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 He always has some really nice touches every game. You can see how much confidence he has with his pace to best people on the wing now and he’s improving with his passing. I feel like he’s getting closer all the time to being a really good player. The only thing is whether he can stay focused and on it for the whole match game after game, he’s probably one of the less consistent members of the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Gutted for him that the goal got ruled out, was lovely work from him and a great finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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