Stray Mackem Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Ultimately it comes down to character regardless of nationality but I also think it is about educating and encouraging the players to engage with the football club and the local area regardless of whether they are English or foreign. The have been sold the club as a stepping stone and see themselves as passing through. Why should they care about the football club and their teammates if they don't think they will be around for very long? Do any of them do anything other than go to the football ground, training ground, the airport and a few shops? Any time off, and they are on a plane back home. They live in a cocooned world and rarely engage with fans - the life of the modern footballer seems to be VIP lounges and personnel on tap to do the simplest of tasks for them. Look at how often players like Albert, Dabizas, Solano and Tino come back to name a few. All foreign lads? A more recent example would be Jonas. All bought into the club and the area and made friends here. OK we were a relatively successful club most of the time but other foreign lads have been here when we were less successful and still retain an affection for the club. How many of the current lot, once they leave, will come back to visit the city. Very few, if any. This is true. Nationality is irrelevant. Kone and Kaboul, alongside Cattermole, have been our most passionate players this season and ended up being one of the reasons why we stayed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Do Sunderland have any Mackems playing? Its about getting the right characters in, regardless of where they're from Well yes, but I'm not saying we should necessarily have a geordie spine. The game today (in most clubs' cases), and more so our club can't do that anymore. There just aren't enough out there that would cut it. I'd easily settle for eleven foreign players if they were of the right character, but it seems that every successful team still has at least a British spine, bar Man City (though they do have Hart at least). They're almost at a point of needing to rebuild though so it should be interesting to see if they look to bring more in. Ultimately it comes down to character regardless of nationality but I also think it is about educating and encouraging the players to engage with the football club and the local area regardless of whether they are English or foreign. The have been sold the club as a stepping stone and see themselves as passing through. Why should they care about the football club and their teammates if they don't think they will be around for very long? Do any of them do anything other than go to the football ground, training ground, the airport and a few shops? Any time off, and they are on a plane back home. They live in a cocooned world and rarely engage with fans - the life of the modern footballer seems to be VIP lounges and personnel on tap to do the simplest of tasks for them. Look at how often players like Albert, Dabizas, Solano and Tino come back to name a few. All foreign lads? A more recent example would be Jonas. All bought into the club and the area and made friends here. OK we were a relatively successful club most of the time but other foreign lads have been here when we were less successful and still retain an affection for the club. How many of the current lot, once they leave, will come back to visit the city. Very few, if any. had this conversation, or one like it, yesterday - fact is that with this bunch of disinterested arseholes had we had benitez in for say 19 games we'd have stayed up comfortably imo and that's without a consistent goalscorer and one of the worst collection of defenders in the division if the last 5 years alone have taught us anything it should not be that buying foreign players en mass is a bad strategy, it's that employing shit managers is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Going to be a massive kick in the nuts not being able to watch our games next season. We'll be the pick of the bunch for sky live games but most of the time it will be radio only I fear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Just seen the table properly and looked at the teams just above us. Palace away, Bournemouth at home and WBA away all turned out to be 6-pointers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 What are everyone's predictions? AWAY: 8 2 points Everton L Chelsea L Stoke D L Leicester L Norwich W L Southampton D L Liverpool L D Villa W D HOME: 13 14 points West Brom W Man City D Bournemouth W L Makems W D Swansea W Palace L W Spurs L W 21 16 points Thought I'd look back at January predictions. We took 1 point more than I expected at home, and 6 points less away. So 5 points less than the 21 points (from 45 then available) which I thought would keep us safe. 42 points would have indeed been enough, obviously, especially as we would have had three from Bournemouth and an additional two from Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Has any club ever ended the season 6 unbeaten and still dropped? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Has any club ever ended the season 6 unbeaten and still dropped? I can think of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 We ended up with more points than I predicted, but so did Sunderland unfortunately. I had us staying up on something stupid like 35. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 10 You're not allowed to change that for the rest of the season because 10 = 100% anarl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 ketamine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Huddersfield and Burnley winning. 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Honestly, I think we're going to be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Where the fuck are options 8 and 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Who can't count then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Think there were a few of us resetting that at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Anyway, 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Huddersfield today: It's more that Palace were hideous in the first half, yet Huddersfield are still looking vulnerable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 7 if things don't improve by end of transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Think as long as we have Rafa we should have enough to stay up, still think it's going to be harder than some think even if everything goes our way with Rafa staying so 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The rest of the league isn't awash with quality, and on the showings so far no fucker can defend so as long as we remain organised and bring in someone to relieve the pressure on Gayle we'll be ok. We tended, last season, to do better when up against the better sides, so hope this will continue to be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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