Chapo Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 First cunt that posts a Richard Keys tweet/clip needs banning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just can't get my head around him shooting for more money after dropping the price when covid hit Hes a two bit chancer c*** who gambles, he has other offers and tried it on with the Saudis for more cash and f***ed the deal up. I think this is it, but it doesn't track the current narrative about him wanting out, nor does it explain why he agreed to drop the price in the first place only to try and raise it. I guess it really suggests he thinks he has another buyer in the wings waiting to pay more tbh. Hard to find another explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Which page did this RIP? 69 (not an offer) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Out from Caulkin yet? He's been shown to know very little about the whole episode tbh. No he's been shown to have a line into the buyers, who are sticking to their guns about what happened. Given Ashley is involved and the PL have taken the amount of time they have I know who I believe personally regardless of all this made up bollocks about Staveley being a chancer or whatever. We have years of evidence of what Ashley is like. If he has theyve been filling him with lies because most of what he's came out with these past few months has been well wide of the mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 And however shitty and sanctimonious the PL have been, they WERE going to approve it. Had approved it even, I believe. That’s what I was trying to tell Twitter last night. But as soon as the exclusivity ran out, MA saw the opportunity to pocket the 17 million and an extra 50 million from the American. Were they fuck, were they absolute fuck. If they were they could have and would have done it months ago. They have had every opportunity to pass the deal, every obstacle overcome. They haven’t approved it so this would happen, so they get to keep their closed shop, and when PIF have learnt that you can’t buy Newcastle but you can buy Man Utd, the long extensive test has already been done and red carpet is fucking waiting. This has happened because Masters didn’t get his fucking bung, that’s the only fucking reason why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Im the only one wondering why the fuck im/one is spending time in this thread, or the football forum at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I'm not sure that Golfmag is right in this case tbh (about the fact that the PL had formally approved it, not the other parts). If they had, the Saudis wouldn't have been able to walk away. That's how a conditional contract works - you eventually reach a point (called a longstop date), that if the condition hasn't been satisfied (PL issue approval), either party can walk way, but for that to happen, someone needs to serve a notice to terminate. If the condition (PL approval) is satisfied before anyone serves that notice, you have to complete. That is essentially the legal background to the various claims that "exclusivity had expired" recently - not technically correct, but since either party were in a position to walk away until approval was given, seller could feasibly speak to other buyers, and both sides could re-negotiate (i.e. I want to change the price to x, because if you don't agree then we walk). If somehow the contract allows a buyer to walk away even though the condition was satisfied, then Ashley's lawyers have really messed that up (and I would be astonished if they had because it is such a basic legal point), and I suspect he is going to be furious. My best guess, Ashley did try and re-negotiate, before formal PL approval, which he could do because both buyer and seller were in a position whereby they could walk away. Saudis have called his bluff. It fits his profile, he is a gambler. But equally it could be that the Saudis tried to renegotiate - they were in a position to do so because of exactly the same reasons as above. If it were not Mike Ashley we were talking about, I would have thought that this was more likely - outside of football a ton of deals which had "signed" fell away after the Covid crisis, buyer simply gave up the deposit as it was less of a hit than paying over the market price. Where we go now is anybody's guess. The manorpark in me thinks that this might still go through. PL will not want to take any flack on this, so suspect we will see some leaks from their side about the fact that they had indicated they would approve it. That will really ramp up the pressure on Ashley, and then a deal might be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-saudi-arabia-takeover-collapse-22444062 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Out from Caulkin yet? He's been shown to know very little about the whole episode tbh. No he's been shown to have a line into the buyers, who are sticking to their guns about what happened. Given Ashley is involved and the PL have taken the amount of time they have I know who I believe personally regardless of all this made up bollocks about Staveley being a chancer or whatever. We have years of evidence of what Ashley is like. If he has theyve been filling him with lies because most of what he's came out with these past few months has been well wide of the mark. You've no fucking idea what you're talking about man. There's nothing to suggest that anything the buying party have said is bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Out from Caulkin yet? He's been shown to know very little about the whole episode tbh. No he's been shown to have a line into the buyers, who are sticking to their guns about what happened. Given Ashley is involved and the PL have taken the amount of time they have I know who I believe personally regardless of all this made up bollocks about Staveley being a chancer or whatever. We have years of evidence of what Ashley is like. If he has theyve been filling him with lies because most of what he's came out with these past few months has been well wide of the mark. Are blaming them and Caulkin for falling for their apparent nonsense in your opinion, and not blaming the fat lying, odious money grabbing bag of utter shite Mike Ashley ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Jim Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just a thought.....but wonder why PIF didn’t push the PL for a decision before the exclusivity finished...mind you they probably did which explains why they deliberately withheld their decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Good fucking lord. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 If Ashley asks for more money then I’m guessing he defaults on the deposit. Surely he can’t keep it after asking for new terms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 If this is true you have to wonder why they are not going down the legal action route Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I guess the PL could say they hadn’t made a decision yet. In the end, they didn’t reject it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I genuinely believed looking at the the evidence we had, it would go through. It's a massive shame. I'll continue to boycott as I have been and no doubt drift further away in terms of support. Fuck Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Would love to know what sort of money the consortium have sunk into this only to be shafted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Which page did this RIP? Do we need a "Post hopes and dreams reaction from page 69" in the title? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Going to be grim when some European team gets bought by them and start dominating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just can't get my head around him shooting for more money after dropping the price when covid hit Because the American bid 350m which he accepted. The problem is now if the American pull the plug Ashley will have nothing but s***. We're just accepting "the American" is real and has no issue with chucking 50m more than an existing deal that was agreed? If they're that cash rich could be good times ahead Because 1. Golfmag is always right and 2. I don’t think Ashley would do such an insane action, trying to milk extra money during such a global crisis without anything on hand. Yea I know he’s dumb and he’s greedy but this is just impossible. This whole Covid disaster is going to have huge consequences and I guarantee you that UK (and in fact global) economy would be in deep shit for a certain years at least. I would go that far to say I won’t be surprised if SD would go bankrupt as a result. That’s what Hong Kong experienced 16 years ago during SARS. This 300m sales is the last chance he can get his return back within a short period of time. Look at the other clubs. Sancho asking price is falling. Kai Havertz sold for way cheaper than expected. No other clubs come in for Ake except Man City. Lots of small clubs couldn’t pay wages and may go bankrupt soon. The whole industry is taking serious hit and no one know how long it takes to go back to “normal”. I genuinely believe he has another bid on hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Wow. I'm surprised, but not surprised. Exclusively reading the skysports report and the quotes, it simply seems as the investors were not going to hold up a massive amount of money that could be invested and grow elsewhere instead of being dicked around by the PL for an unlimited amount of time. Unless anything else has been reported by credible sources close to the deal, it doesn't look like Ashley is to blame for this one but rather the PL / member clubs. Shame that they have the power they do, and that NUFC as a business can't be bough and sold like any other business. I'm too attached to this forum to leave entirely, but won't be watching football or taking notice of rumours/transfers, participating in FPL or anything from now on until the club is owned by someone that wants and tries to make it as good as it can be. Just cba with it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Going to be grim when some European team gets bought by them and start dominating. Its the Man City scenario happening all over again, thanks Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Out from Caulkin yet? He's been shown to know very little about the whole episode tbh. No he's been shown to have a line into the buyers, who are sticking to their guns about what happened. Given Ashley is involved and the PL have taken the amount of time they have I know who I believe personally regardless of all this made up bollocks about Staveley being a chancer or whatever. We have years of evidence of what Ashley is like. If he has theyve been filling him with lies because most of what he's came out with these past few months has been well wide of the mark. You've no fucking idea what you're talking about man. There's nothing to suggest that anything the buying party have said is bullshit. I said from the start it wouldn't go through, Caulkin said it would. He knew fuck all, same as I did. Only difference was my gut feeling was right and his was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Its all on the PL - corrupt to the core- bigger clubs didn't want this to happen They are totally unaccountable can do what they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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