Candi_Hills Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Do we have any direct quotes saying that they won't buy if we get relegated? The money it takes to get back up is what Liverpool would spend on a goalie. From PIFs perspective, surely it'd be a minor inconvenience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Do we have any direct quotes saying that they won't buy if we get relegated? The money it takes to get back up is what Liverpool would spend on a goalie. From PIFs perspective, surely it'd be a minor inconvenience. Quicker to just buy Leeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 They would still get everything this club has been sold to them if we go down . Us, the fans, alas the brand for them wouldn’t be the same, I hope I’m wrong. We are going down if he , Bruce, isn’t gone by Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Watched 5 minutes of him on that 3 amigos and wanted to shoot myself. Arrogant cunt, who's only intention is to get himself some publicity. Pretty much my view with just seeing the tweets. He's just another Wraith, trying to ride the coat tails of our club for a bit of personal notoriety. I have no real opinion on the guy but he’s spend a lot of money for notoriety. I think his intentions are good he’s just old school, he should stay of twitter and work behind the scenes Agree. Personally know a lot of older fans who have the same kind of passion for nufc. They also don't live online and scrutinise every single aspect of nufc and lawyers bread pictures. Sometimes when you talk to them their opinions seem a tad out of touch, but genuine at heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Do we have any direct quotes saying that they won't buy if we get relegated? The money it takes to get back up is what Liverpool would spend on a goalie. From PIFs perspective, surely it'd be a minor inconvenience. Quicker to just buy Leeds. Not to mention cheaper given the state of our infrastructure. And wouldn’t have to change their manager... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Do we have any direct quotes saying that they won't buy if we get relegated? The money it takes to get back up is what Liverpool would spend on a goalie. From PIFs perspective, surely it'd be a minor inconvenience. Quicker to just buy Leeds. Not to mention cheaper given the state of our infrastructure. And wouldn’t have to change their manager... They just need to buy Wilson and dubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Nothing’s guaranteed with promotion. PIF could spend money and still fail, then be stuck in the championship again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 BEIN deny ban has been lifted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrovianmag Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 BEIN deny ban has been lifted. You mean hairy palms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 BEIN deny ban has been lifted. You mean hairy palms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 BEIN deny ban has been lifted. You mean hairy palms? Looks like someone has just knocked that up on notepad on their phone!? Just me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I mean that’s literally typed on a mobile phone. However, plenty of people in Saudi saying it hasn’t been unblocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 BEIN deny ban has been lifted. You mean hairy palms? He hates us that fucker. Hope we get taken over just to sicken that mug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Reuters have got the intel, man. It'll be confirmed tomorrow. Gorilla digits is bricking it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Looks like Ashley’s private jet is off to the UAE again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Looks like Ashley’s private jet is off to the UAE again. Apparently he hires it out to a charter firm that’s why it’s always going back and forward to the Middle East. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I found out a couple of days ago that a few months ago Ashley's jet left UAE with the Reubens jet leaving almost at the same time. Thought that was interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side. But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position? What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal? If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheToon Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 They don't have a leg to stand on to try and make any arguments that blame the current position of the team on the PL impacting a takeover. It shouldn't stop the day to day running of the club. Also, if you wanted to get more analytical about it, Ashley has a history of this exact situation of shite ownership leading to relegation before the failed PIF takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side. But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position? What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal? If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop? I made a similar point after Sheffield United game and got shot down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side. But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position? What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal? If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop? I'd have to say no because we are only in the current position due to Steve Bruce. It's not the PL's fault that Ashley chose to allow Rafa Benitez to leave, and chose to replace him with one of the worst managers in PL history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 They don't have a leg to stand on to try and make any arguments that blame the current position of the team on the PL impacting a takeover. It shouldn't stop the day to day running of the club. Also, if you wanted to get more analytical about it, Ashley has a history of this exact situation of shite ownership leading to relegation before the failed PIF takeover. 1) If it can be proven the O&D Test was not applied in line with their own rules and regulations it's a very easy argument to make that Ashley has suffered a loss at their hands. 2) If it can be proven that loss was incurred because of the PL's failure then he will be entitled to compensation. 3) The amount of compensation would be directly in line with the impacts of the breach and Ashleys side would argue the PL's failure put him in a financially worse position and that, had the rules been correctly applied, he'd have been long gone and could not therefore have incurred said losses. I don't think it's beyond the realms of possiblity that this impending doom plays into Ashleys hands from a strictly legal perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side. But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position? What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal? If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop? I'd have to say no because we are only in the current position due to Steve Bruce. It's not the PL's fault that Ashley chose to allow Rafa Benitez to leave, and chose to replace him with one of the worst managers in PL history. Correct but his argument is that he wouldn't have been here to oversee the failure if they'd correctly applied their own rules. If he can prove they didn't then the Rafa/Bruce argument is irrelevant I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 There's no way you can sue the PL for our current league position. The club is still financially sound during a transfer window. It has absolutely nothing to do with the PL and would be laughed out of court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheToon Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 They don't have a leg to stand on to try and make any arguments that blame the current position of the team on the PL impacting a takeover. It shouldn't stop the day to day running of the club. Also, if you wanted to get more analytical about it, Ashley has a history of this exact situation of shite ownership leading to relegation before the failed PIF takeover. 1) If it can be proven the O&D Test was not applied in line with their own rules and regulations it's a very easy argument to make that Ashley has suffered a loss at their hands. 2) If it can be proven that loss was incurred because of the PL's failure then he will be entitled to compensation. 3) The amount of compensation would be directly in line with the impacts of the breach and Ashleys side would argue the PL's failure put him in a financially worse position and that, had the rules been correctly applied, he'd have been long gone and could not therefore have incurred said losses. I don't think it's beyond the realms of possiblity that this impending doom plays into Ashleys hands from a strictly legal perspective. I understand the argument but don't agree, the failed takeover doesn't stop him running the club. If I was trying to sell a car and someone wrongly prevented that sale you could try and claim compensation. If you then stopped servicing the car and it subsequently broke down you can't go back and blame that person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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