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Do we have any direct quotes saying that they won't buy if we get relegated?

 

The money it takes to get back up is what Liverpool would spend on a goalie. From PIFs perspective, surely it'd be a minor inconvenience.

 

Quicker to just buy Leeds.

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They would still get everything this club has been sold to them if we go down .

 

Us, the fans, alas the brand for them wouldn’t be the same, I hope I’m wrong.

 

We are going down if he , Bruce, isn’t gone by Villa

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Watched 5 minutes of him on that 3 amigos and wanted to shoot myself. Arrogant cunt, who's only intention is to get himself some publicity.

 

Pretty much my view with just seeing the tweets. He's just another Wraith, trying to ride the coat tails of our club for a bit of personal notoriety.

 

I have no real opinion on the guy but he’s spend a lot of money for notoriety. I think his intentions are good he’s just old school, he should stay of twitter and work behind the scenes

 

Agree. Personally know a lot of older fans who have the same kind of passion for nufc. They also don't live online and scrutinise every single aspect of nufc and lawyers bread pictures.

 

Sometimes when you talk to them their opinions seem a tad out of touch, but genuine at heart.

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Do we have any direct quotes saying that they won't buy if we get relegated?

 

The money it takes to get back up is what Liverpool would spend on a goalie. From PIFs perspective, surely it'd be a minor inconvenience.

 

Quicker to just buy Leeds.

 

Not to mention cheaper given the state of our infrastructure. And wouldn’t have to change their manager...

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Do we have any direct quotes saying that they won't buy if we get relegated?

 

The money it takes to get back up is what Liverpool would spend on a goalie. From PIFs perspective, surely it'd be a minor inconvenience.

 

Quicker to just buy Leeds.

 

Not to mention cheaper given the state of our infrastructure. And wouldn’t have to change their manager...

 

They just need to buy Wilson and dubs

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Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side.

 

But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position?

 

What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal?

 

If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop?

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They don't have a leg to stand on to try and make any arguments that blame the current position of the team on the PL impacting a takeover.

 

It shouldn't stop the day to day running of the club.  Also, if you wanted to get more analytical about it, Ashley has a history of this exact situation of shite ownership leading to relegation before the failed PIF takeover.

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Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side.

 

But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position?

 

What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal?

 

If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop?

 

I made a similar point after Sheffield United game and got shot down

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Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side.

 

But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position?

 

What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal?

 

If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop?

 

I'd have to say no because we are only in the current position due to Steve Bruce. It's not the PL's fault that Ashley chose to allow Rafa Benitez to leave, and chose to replace him with one of the worst managers in PL history.

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They don't have a leg to stand on to try and make any arguments that blame the current position of the team on the PL impacting a takeover.

 

It shouldn't stop the day to day running of the club.  Also, if you wanted to get more analytical about it, Ashley has a history of this exact situation of shite ownership leading to relegation before the failed PIF takeover.

 

1) If it can be proven the O&D Test was not applied in line with their own rules and regulations it's a very easy argument to make that Ashley has suffered a loss at their hands.

 

2) If it can be proven that loss was incurred because of the PL's failure then he will be entitled to compensation.

 

3) The amount of compensation would be directly in line with the impacts of the breach and Ashleys side would argue the PL's failure put him in a financially worse position and that, had the rules been correctly applied, he'd have been long gone and could not therefore have incurred said losses.

 

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possiblity that this impending doom plays into Ashleys hands from a strictly legal perspective.

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Disclaimer: I've got no desire to get into a 'will it/won't it' happen with the various cheerleaders from each side.

 

But on the wider subject, hear me out.........does this latest clusterfuck of form/ineptitude actually work in Ashleys favour in respect of the legal position?

 

What I mean is, if he is in the process of suing the PL for the deal falling through because of their systemic failure to fairly apply the O&D Test, does the impending loss of PL status and thus increasing his loss due to their failures actually indirectly hurry them up to get to a resolution on the Saudi deal?

 

If the PL can see the impending relegation and the compensation demand therefore going up in the magnitude of eight figures, surely they rush to approve the deal and have Ashley agree to waive any potential liabilities if we still drop?

 

I'd have to say no because we are only in the current position due to Steve Bruce. It's not the PL's fault that Ashley chose to allow Rafa Benitez to leave, and chose to replace him with one of the worst managers in PL history.

 

Correct but his argument is that he wouldn't have been here to oversee the failure if they'd correctly applied their own rules. If he can prove they didn't then the Rafa/Bruce argument is irrelevant I think.

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They don't have a leg to stand on to try and make any arguments that blame the current position of the team on the PL impacting a takeover.

 

It shouldn't stop the day to day running of the club.  Also, if you wanted to get more analytical about it, Ashley has a history of this exact situation of shite ownership leading to relegation before the failed PIF takeover.

 

1) If it can be proven the O&D Test was not applied in line with their own rules and regulations it's a very easy argument to make that Ashley has suffered a loss at their hands.

 

2) If it can be proven that loss was incurred because of the PL's failure then he will be entitled to compensation.

 

3) The amount of compensation would be directly in line with the impacts of the breach and Ashleys side would argue the PL's failure put him in a financially worse position and that, had the rules been correctly applied, he'd have been long gone and could not therefore have incurred said losses.

 

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possiblity that this impending doom plays into Ashleys hands from a strictly legal perspective.

 

I understand the argument but don't agree, the failed takeover doesn't stop him running the club. 

 

If I was trying to sell a car and someone wrongly prevented that sale you could try and claim compensation.  If you then stopped servicing the car and it subsequently broke down you can't go back and blame that person.

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