Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Stifler]

Nowt like click bait.

One paper says they are interested in buying a minority interest in Inter, just days after their current owners are pulling out of football.

 

Even if they were interested in buying them, it has already been suggested that they want a Man City type group of clubs.

[gdm]

Nowt like click bait.

One paper says they are interested in buying a minority interest in Inter, just days after their current owners are pulling out of football.

 

Even if they were interested in buying them, it has already been suggested that they want a Man City type group of clubs.

 

Could even be a positive then? A stake in inter with Newcastle to follow

[Jinky Jim]

I don’t think I am adding unnecessary negativity. Nothing would please me more than this takeover going through, it’d be a colossal positive not just for the club but the whole city.

 

All I’m doing is sharing my thoughts and knowledge, as everyone else is. It does get incredibly annoying for new posters to have to justify themselves after being challenged countless times about being a previous poster, being a mackem or whatever else is thrown about (with the exception of tubes, who clearly is a previous poster). Maybe that’s why the quality of new posters isn’t so high - people can’t be arsed with it.

 

Feel free to read some of my other posts in other threads, I was very positive only a short while ago about ASM.

 

That’s what annoys me slightly, post anything that’s in any way down on the takeover happening even if that is what appears to be most realistic and people get upset about it and accuse you of being a wum and being overly negative yet anyone can post any amount  of utter shite (in one case yesterday the exact same post in both takeover threads) but as long as it’s positive no one cares.

The majority on here want to feel positive about the takeover but the positive feeling and info just doesn’t appear to be there.

 

I think I saw someone saying it’s just going around in circles and it’s true apart from the club announcing it was going to arbitration there has literally been no other concrete news. Maybe it is time to just take a back seat and see how this relegation battle plays out first

 

Sums it up quite well.I’m still in the Optimistic group but like you say neither group has any great evidence as to whether it goes through or not.The positive optimism thread tries to relieve the constant boredom of negativity without really producing any great evidence one way or another.What it does is offer some interesting points to possibly cheer us up for a short while...some of the posters in that thread are very positive and helps to install a sense of hope. Those in the other thread who have the opposite point of view also have very valid points and may well prove to be absolutely correct in their judgement of the situation. No group has insider knowledge so we are left to surmise. Healthy debate is good, this is what the forum is set up for, but there is no need for one or two posters to simply appear, wind up everyone, sit back and watch the battle. As it may be a while before we hear anything either way....the present relegation battle is our main concern.

[Ketsbaia]

Not sure how much Tony Evans knows but he posted this a couple of hours ago:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle/united-takeover-amanda-staveley-pif-b1811060.html

 

Mike Ashley, the owner, has issued arbitration proceedings against the Premier League and is still keen to offload the club. PIF will not comment on the matter but the Saudis are understood to remain eager to complete the transaction.

 

Staveley’s courtroom struggles have no impact on Newcastle. The businesswoman is considering an appeal against the Barclays verdict – which would take the case into its 10th year – but whatever decision she makes will not affect her desire to become involved with the club. Neither would relegation. Sources close to the situation maintain that all parties in the consortium would still be interested even if the team are relegated to the Championship.

 

Those close to the takeover have always believed that the political wrangling should not affect the sale. The murder of Khashoggi has not caused an interruption of economic relations between Britain and Saudi Arabia and many in football do not see why the game needs to take a stance that is not being held by the government.

 

The takeover could be done very quickly. All the preparation work that takes time before a transaction was completed last year. A price renegotiation would need to take place if the unthinkable happened and Newcastle went down, but the figures are straightforward and that would not take long.

 

The Premier League would need to give PIF an indication that they were ready to rubber-stamp their involvement. The consortium think that this will be the eventual result but the negative publicity does not help. There is no immediate sign of a change of situation for Newcastle. The only good news they can generate is with a couple of wins on the pitch.

[Yorkie]

Not sure how much Tony Evans knows but he posted this a couple of hours ago:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle/united-takeover-amanda-staveley-pif-b1811060.html

 

Mike Ashley, the owner, has issued arbitration proceedings against the Premier League and is still keen to offload the club. PIF will not comment on the matter but the Saudis are understood to remain eager to complete the transaction.

 

Staveley’s courtroom struggles have no impact on Newcastle. The businesswoman is considering an appeal against the Barclays verdict – which would take the case into its 10th year – but whatever decision she makes will not affect her desire to become involved with the club. Neither would relegation. Sources close to the situation maintain that all parties in the consortium would still be interested even if the team are relegated to the Championship.

 

Those close to the takeover have always believed that the political wrangling should not affect the sale. The murder of Khashoggi has not caused an interruption of economic relations between Britain and Saudi Arabia and many in football do not see why the game needs to take a stance that is not being held by the government.

 

The takeover could be done very quickly. All the preparation work that takes time before a transaction was completed last year. A price renegotiation would need to take place if the unthinkable happened and Newcastle went down, but the figures are straightforward and that would not take long.

 

The Premier League would need to give PIF an indication that they were ready to rubber-stamp their involvement. The consortium think that this will be the eventual result but the negative publicity does not help. There is no immediate sign of a change of situation for Newcastle. The only good news they can generate is with a couple of wins on the pitch.

 

Hence yesterday's news.

[loki679]

I don’t think I am adding unnecessary negativity. Nothing would please me more than this takeover going through, it’d be a colossal positive not just for the club but the whole city.

 

All I’m doing is sharing my thoughts and knowledge, as everyone else is. It does get incredibly annoying for new posters to have to justify themselves after being challenged countless times about being a previous poster, being a mackem or whatever else is thrown about (with the exception of tubes, who clearly is a previous poster). Maybe that’s why the quality of new posters isn’t so high - people can’t be arsed with it.

 

Feel free to read some of my other posts in other threads, I was very positive only a short while ago about ASM.

 

So you aren't a previous poster?

 

The regens are turning on each other

[St1pe]

So given what we know about Mike Ashley, do we think he would

 

a) Sell the club for 100m less than was supposedly on the table last year or

 

b) Gamble and assume he can get the club back in the Premier League with minimal investment in players or coaching staff, f*** it up and leave us stranded in the wilderness for another decade.

 

Gamble ?

[TK-421]

Nowt like click bait.

One paper says they are interested in buying a minority interest in Inter, just days after their current owners are pulling out of football.

 

Even if they were interested in buying them, it has already been suggested that they want a Man City type group of clubs.

 

Could even be a positive then? A stake in inter with Newcastle to follow

 

What happens when we play Inter in the Champions League final, though?

 

 

 

 

[Kaizero]

I don’t think I am adding unnecessary negativity. Nothing would please me more than this takeover going through, it’d be a colossal positive not just for the club but the whole city.

 

All I’m doing is sharing my thoughts and knowledge, as everyone else is. It does get incredibly annoying for new posters to have to justify themselves after being challenged countless times about being a previous poster, being a mackem or whatever else is thrown about (with the exception of tubes, who clearly is a previous poster). Maybe that’s why the quality of new posters isn’t so high - people can’t be arsed with it.

 

Feel free to read some of my other posts in other threads, I was very positive only a short while ago about ASM.

 

So you aren't a previous poster?

 

The regens are turning on each other

 

Guy's username is literally burner account ffs.

[gdm]

So basically comes down to Ashley’s willingness to accept a lower price should relegation happen

 

Hmmm

[Shearergol]

The consortium think that this will be the eventual result but the negative publicity does not help

 

Are we still in 2020?

[Pons Alias]

 

If we go down, I think he would still sell - but would retain a stake that he could sell to the others for an inflated price if/when we went up.

[Kanj]

In my head, he seems to be very focused on Middle East ties and seems to stuck on building a relationship with PIF or contacts that come with doing a deal with them.

 

So an irrational thought (hope) I have is that he knows he will take a haircut on price and will do a deal with them in the Champ if that happens to us.

 

So if Tony’s article is accurate and my assumption on Mike’s eyes on Middle East retail expansion - this could maybe all make sense.

 

If only we could get confirmation of all that, I’d be fine with whatever happens until then

[Armchair Pundit]

If PIF have registered an interest to a minority share in Inter Milan, do we think that's a possible set up for a link across several clubs? Or the end of their interest in buying us?

[Candi_Hills]

All the journos (and Keith) are reporting the same things, just with slightly different spin.

 

- Buyer and seller still pushing

- Relegation may or may not be a problem

- Peace in the ME paves the way

- Arbitration may or may not render ME relations irrelevant

 

Manorpark doesn’t know it’s on, Fantail doesn’t know it’s off. Put your cans away for now but divvent shit the bed.

 

[Mattoon]

All the journos (and Keith) are reporting the same things, just with slightly different spin.

 

- Buyer and seller still pushing

- Relegation may or may not be a problem

- Peace in the ME paves the way

- Arbitration may or may not render ME relations irrelevant

 

Manorpark doesn’t know it’s on, Fantail doesn’t know it’s off. Put your cans away for now but divvent shit the bed.

 

 

This, its always been this, regardless of who knows who in what business and presumptions of process. There's literally a hand full of people that know the true state of play and claiming to be a party to any of that information is laughable at best. Best just to keep your head down and concentrate on hating Bruce for the foreseeable.

 

Personally I think the embers are still burning away, whether they go out or finally burst into flames I wouldn't even hazard a guess at. Either way if it goes through we'll finally have a club to be proud of again, if it doesn't then there's genuinely nothing left and I'll probably delete my account as this is the last place that keeps me interested.

[Fantail Breeze]

All the journos (and Keith) are reporting the same things, just with slightly different spin.

 

- Buyer and seller still pushing

- Relegation may or may not be a problem

- Peace in the ME paves the way

- Arbitration may or may not render ME relations irrelevant

 

Manorpark doesn’t know it’s on, Fantail doesn’t know it’s off. Put your cans away for now but divvent s*** the bed.

 

Agree with most of that. But I’m not saying it’s definitely off for good.

 

It’s currently off now, unless 3 out of your 4 points all resolve (which at the moment, there is no sign of).

[Lazarus]

Doesnt staveley still have that deposit/charge wotsit from MASH?

 

If the takeover was a dead duck then this would have been returned shirley?

[danny]

Doesnt staveley still have that deposit/charge wotsit from MASH?

 

If the takeover was a dead duck then this would have been returned shirley?

 

 

Isnt that non-refundable, or am i thinking of something else

[Lazarus]

Doesnt staveley still have that deposit/charge wotsit from MASH?

 

If the takeover was a dead duck then this would have been returned shirley?

 

 

Isnt that non-refundable, or am i thinking of something else

 

Nee idea.

 

 

[danny]

Doesnt staveley still have that deposit/charge wotsit from MASH?

 

If the takeover was a dead duck then this would have been returned shirley?

 

 

Isnt that non-refundable, or am i thinking of something else

 

Nee idea.

 

I thought that was a 17mil non-refundable just to look at the books ect...

[Danh1]

Cannot see Ashley selling the club for less should we go down sadly. If we go down I think it’s game over.

 

And sadly, I cannot see us not going down.

[Si]

Cannot see Ashley selling the club for less should we go down sadly. If we go down I think it’s game over.

 

And sadly, I cannot see us not going down.

If we go down he'll invest then the price goes up when we come back up. Fucking vicious circle.

[Keggy_Keagal]

Not sure how much Tony Evans knows but he posted this a couple of hours ago:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle/united-takeover-amanda-staveley-pif-b1811060.html

 

Mike Ashley, the owner, has issued arbitration proceedings against the Premier League and is still keen to offload the club. PIF will not comment on the matter but the Saudis are understood to remain eager to complete the transaction.

 

Staveley’s courtroom struggles have no impact on Newcastle. The businesswoman is considering an appeal against the Barclays verdict – which would take the case into its 10th year – but whatever decision she makes will not affect her desire to become involved with the club. Neither would relegation. Sources close to the situation maintain that all parties in the consortium would still be interested even if the team are relegated to the Championship.

 

Those close to the takeover have always believed that the political wrangling should not affect the sale. The murder of Khashoggi has not caused an interruption of economic relations between Britain and Saudi Arabia and many in football do not see why the game needs to take a stance that is not being held by the government.

 

The takeover could be done very quickly. All the preparation work that takes time before a transaction was completed last year. A price renegotiation would need to take place if the unthinkable happened and Newcastle went down, but the figures are straightforward and that would not take long.

 

The Premier League would need to give PIF an indication that they were ready to rubber-stamp their involvement. The consortium think that this will be the eventual result but the negative publicity does not help. There is no immediate sign of a change of situation for Newcastle. The only good news they can generate is with a couple of wins on the pitch.

 

Hence yesterday's news.

 

Tony Evans definitely has links to Staveley going back to the days when she was involved in an attempted takeover of Liverpool.

[BlueStar]

Think the possibility of a PIF takover if we go down is the same as if we stay up, virtually nil.