Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Ben]

4 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

He's gunning for the PL, it would seem. Big time.

Charners probably rang him today to tell him the good news about Gayles contract

" fuck this, Maureen pass my Nokia I'm making a tweet"

[Slim]

Least we can all admit Keith was right about the big announcement !

[AyeDubbleYoo]

5 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Positive? 

We've won the arbitration case and now he's got the avenue to sue would be my guess

If we'd won arbitration though, wouldn't the PL have to reconsider their decision anyway? And they would do that without having to be sued, you'd think. 

It's confusing TBH.

[Candi_Hills]

I always like to hear what that Shell lass has to say when the legal process stuff comes out. No one on here's got a fucking clue.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

5 minutes ago, Candi_Hills said:

I always like to hear what that Shell lass has to say when the legal process stuff comes out. No one on here's got a fucking clue.

Neither has she. 

[RS]

7 minutes ago, Slim said:

Least we can all admit Keith was right about the big announcement !

What’s the announcement? The tax thing?

[Shearergol]

15 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Positive? 

We've won the arbitration case and now he's got the avenue to sue would be my guess

That's not how it works

[Candi_Hills]

Just now, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Neither has she. 

She has a clue about legal process. At least she can say what typically happens in certain types of cases.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

17 minutes ago, B-more Mag said:

At the risk of negative-pessamism-ing, I worry that this is an uphill battle:

I mean, maybe they do really have some evidence that the decision was pretextual, but there's pretty clearly a prima facie case that KSA would be a director applying the literal language of the rules.

Is there? It has to be a bit of leap, from a sovereign wealth fund providing some of the money for a deal, to the country itself being ordered to be assessed as a director of the company. Very complex and strange at the very least. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

 

1 minute ago, Candi_Hills said:

She has a clue about legal process. At least she can say what typically happens in certain types of cases.

There’s a few on here with the same amount of knowledge. 

[Candi_Hills]

2 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

 

There’s a few on here with the same amount of knowledge. 

Who? I know there's an American lawyer who chips in with his knowledge of their system.

[Shearergol]

Just now, Candi_Hills said:

Who? I know there's an American lawyer who chips in with his knowledge of their system.

Fantail's a copper, seems to know a fair bit about the law.

[B-more Mag]

4 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Neither has she. 

Nobody's reached out to me for an American lawyer's entirely irrelevant opinion, but I'd happily supply it...at a completely reasonable hourly fee.

[Candi_Hills]

Just now, Shearergol said:

Fantail's a copper, seems to know a fair bit about the law.

Fantail and ED. Good cop bad cop.

[B-more Mag]

1 minute ago, Candi_Hills said:

Who? I know there's an American lawyer who chips in with his knowledge of their system.

That's me, that's me.

[Ketsbaia]

Seems like the endgame is finally in play.

Ballsy moves from our lot, let's hope for utopia 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

So she’s a criminal lawyer working in corporate law.  Which means she never deals in arbitration ever, it doesn’t exist in her practice area. It also has a pretty different legal system (criminal as opposed to civil). 
 

Im a criminal lawyer, Wullie works for the CPS, OpenC worked in prisons, b-more is a lawyer in America. Think there are some other lawyers on here or people with spouses who are practicing lawyers. 
 

I don’t chime in with detailed views of the takeover litigation because I wouldn’t have the first clue other than being able to explain what the parties are trying to achieve. The areas being discussed are highly niche areas of practice. 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by Shays Given Tim Flowers

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

It’s like asking a gastroenterologist to comment on neurosurgery.  

[ToonArmy1892]

Can someone desrcribe what has happened in a nutshell?

[christ]

Is this the old legal strategy of making as much of a nuisance of yourself as possible in the hope the other side get sick/run out of money?

[gdm]

So this was NCSLs big news? Meh

[Rocker]

1 minute ago, gdm said:

So this was NCSLs big news? Meh

Was it?

[B-more Mag]

25 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Is there? It has to be a bit of leap, from a sovereign wealth fund providing some of the money for a deal, to the country itself being ordered to be assessed as a director of the company. Very complex and strange at the very least. 

True. And I mean, it's all obviously arguable -- thus, people arguing about it. To me -- grain of salt time -- the rules make it clear that this issue is not one of PIF being a body/entity that is legally "separate" and distinguishable from KSA: I think it can be admitted that it is. The issue is rather whether KSA has the raw power, whether exercised or not, to control the PIF. That's where I see potential problems and haven't seen anything that convinces me that KSA couldn't exercise control over PIF if it decided it wanted to. It's also where I don't have enough insight into the underling facts or applicable law to be particularly helpful.    

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by B-more Mag
Missing articles and verbs and shit.

[Candi_Hills]

1 minute ago, gdm said:

So this was NCSLs big news? Meh

Not quite. His big news (I think) was that he had information that exposes Masters and PL corruption. He's now saying he's handed over his information to the club who've taken up the anti-competition case, so we still don't know what dirt he may or may not have on them.

[Jackie Broon]

1 minute ago, Rocker said:

Was it?

Yes