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I don't think it's entirely fair to say, "ah, we've heard the 'confident' stuff before."

 

Amanda and PIF's initial confidence was informed by world class lawyers basically and the PL had to break the law to prevent the takeover. Only if they lose the legal case do I think it would be fair to say their confidence was misplaced.

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De Marco posting pictures of a book titled "The Playboy Prince"

 

He's such a fucking tease  :lol:

 

Sure the Mimms ITK from another forum said he knew exactly what he was doing  :lol:

 

Yep, and with that picture amongst others I completely believe it. He always cuts his bread into 80/10/10 too  :lol:

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Manor park digging at the overly negative people there, but are you not doing the exact same thing just at the other end of the spectrum? We all want this to go through desperately, but don’t question people’s caution for negativity. Including yourself, we all have no clue what is happening and are all just living on blind hope at the moment. Things are happening in the background but we have no clue what they are, how significant they are in a successful takeover or if any of it is going to get what we all want. Keith has been doing a fantastic job of taking things to the EPL and he does seem to have them a little rattled, but all we have at the moment is somebody’s confidence in what they are doing. We have heard that before from last year when a lot of confidence was seeping out but ultimately it didn’t happen and this has made a lot of people cautious on getting too carried away. At the moment I see confidence in people trying to make a difference which is great, but it’s still good to not get too carried away in thinking anything is “complete” “fact” or “won”. As of March last year, we all just still live in hope.

 

Thanks for that common sense response. Much appreciated.

 

In my own defence, when you are at "the other end of the spectrum" on here, you have to be accurate and 'very certain' in how you express things, as otherwise you get "drowned out" in (what seems like at times) a sea of endless negativity, none of which is factually based but is all part of an automatic 'disenfranchised' expression of accepted - and expected - bad outcomes.

 

It is difficult to accept that . . so I don't !

 

 

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So March is the new January then. Seems like it keeps being pushed two months ahead all the time. Why anyone would pay any attention to a time frame put forward by the NCSL, or anyone else tbh, is beyond me.

It's been proven time, and time and time again that the "buyers confidence" means absolutely nowt.

 

 

Going to get a Whitley mag etc on your case now

 

Not me, if you don’t think it’s going to happen I respect your view. I do think you’ll be proved wrong in the end, but when that is the jury is still out.

 

The only thing that’s riled me on here, was the calling NCSL embarrassing idiots. Hopefully Keith dispelled that last night, and we can all get behind any efforts to make this happen.

 

 

Never said whether I think it'll happen or not (fwiw I'm sceptical, give it maybe a 30% chance), I just said that every timescale so far has been week wrong and I wouldn't trust it.

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Manor park digging at the overly negative people there, but are you not doing the exact same thing just at the other end of the spectrum? We all want this to go through desperately, but don’t question people’s caution for negativity. Including yourself, we all have no clue what is happening and are all just living on blind hope at the moment. Things are happening in the background but we have no clue what they are, how significant they are in a successful takeover or if any of it is going to get what we all want. Keith has been doing a fantastic job of taking things to the EPL and he does seem to have them a little rattled, but all we have at the moment is somebody’s confidence in what they are doing. We have heard that before from last year when a lot of confidence was seeping out but ultimately it didn’t happen and this has made a lot of people cautious on getting too carried away. At the moment I see confidence in people trying to make a difference which is great, but it’s still good to not get too carried away in thinking anything is “complete” “fact” or “won”. As of March last year, we all just still live in hope.

 

This is it, great post.

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Manor park digging at the overly negative people there, but are you not doing the exact same thing just at the other end of the spectrum? We all want this to go through desperately, but don’t question people’s caution for negativity. Including yourself, we all have no clue what is happening and are all just living on blind hope at the moment. Things are happening in the background but we have no clue what they are, how significant they are in a successful takeover or if any of it is going to get what we all want. Keith has been doing a fantastic job of taking things to the EPL and he does seem to have them a little rattled, but all we have at the moment is somebody’s confidence in what they are doing. We have heard that before from last year when a lot of confidence was seeping out but ultimately it didn’t happen and this has made a lot of people cautious on getting too carried away. At the moment I see confidence in people trying to make a difference which is great, but it’s still good to not get too carried away in thinking anything is “complete” “fact” or “won”. As of March last year, we all just still live in hope.

 

This is it, great post.

 

Exactly, I have already agreed.

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Manor park digging at the overly negative people there, but are you not doing the exact same thing just at the other end of the spectrum? We all want this to go through desperately, but don’t question people’s caution for negativity. Including yourself, we all have no clue what is happening and are all just living on blind hope at the moment. Things are happening in the background but we have no clue what they are, how significant they are in a successful takeover or if any of it is going to get what we all want. Keith has been doing a fantastic job of taking things to the EPL and he does seem to have them a little rattled, but all we have at the moment is somebody’s confidence in what they are doing. We have heard that before from last year when a lot of confidence was seeping out but ultimately it didn’t happen and this has made a lot of people cautious on getting too carried away. At the moment I see confidence in people trying to make a difference which is great, but it’s still good to not get too carried away in thinking anything is “complete” “fact” or “won”. As of March last year, we all just still live in hope.

Thanks for that common sense response. Much appreciated.

In my own defence, when you are at "the other end of the spectrum" on here, you have to be accurate and 'very certain' in how you express things, as otherwise you get "drowned out" in (what seems like at times) a sea of endless negativity, none of which is factually based but is all part of an automatic 'disenfranchised' expression of accepted - and expected - bad outcomes.

It is difficult to accept that . . so I don't !

 

Any negativity is based on fact because it is quite clearly a fact that after 9-10 months, the takeover (which was meant to take 2-4 weeks once it got to the PL) still hasn't happened.

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Manor park digging at the overly negative people there, but are you not doing the exact same thing just at the other end of the spectrum? We all want this to go through desperately, but don’t question people’s caution for negativity. Including yourself, we all have no clue what is happening and are all just living on blind hope at the moment. Things are happening in the background but we have no clue what they are, how significant they are in a successful takeover or if any of it is going to get what we all want. Keith has been doing a fantastic job of taking things to the EPL and he does seem to have them a little rattled, but all we have at the moment is somebody’s confidence in what they are doing. We have heard that before from last year when a lot of confidence was seeping out but ultimately it didn’t happen and this has made a lot of people cautious on getting too carried away. At the moment I see confidence in people trying to make a difference which is great, but it’s still good to not get too carried away in thinking anything is “complete” “fact” or “won”. As of March last year, we all just still live in hope.

 

Thanks for that common sense response. Much appreciated.

 

In my own defence, when you are at "the other end of the spectrum" on here, you have to be accurate and 'very certain' in how you express things, as otherwise you get "drowned out" in (what seems like at times) a sea of endless negativity, none of which is factually based but is all part of an automatic 'disenfranchised' expression of accepted - and expected - bad outcomes.

 

It is difficult to accept that . . so I don't !

 

 

 

:lol: :lol:

 

A lot of the negativity is based entirely in fact. The fact being that this has been going on close to a year now and we're still not under new ownership. Despite unshakable buyer confidence, a supposed legal team akin to the fuckin Avengers and twitter accounts with inside knowledge of the diplomatic dealings of sovereign states one fact remains clear. We are still owned by Mike Ashley and that doesnt look like its going to change in at least the short term.

 

Honestly, if this goes through, and you have your day of reckoning, fair play. I'd love for Manor Park to be right all along but for now, I don't begrudge anyone having a healthy dose of skepticism being honest.

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Could someone list the facts. Actual facts as in official statements?

I’ve got;

 

1)  PIF withdraw offer

 

2)  Shaheed Fatima QC and Nick De Marco QC are acting for Newcastle United FC and Mike Ashley (instructed by Dentons) in a dispute with the Premier League about its rejection of a takeover bid made by PCP Capital Partners, the Reuben Brothers and the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia (PIF) based on its Owners and Directors test.

 

And Possibly

 

3)  2 Newcastle fans write letter to PL re competition act. PL reply. 2 fans suggest legal action will ensue.

 

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De Marco posting pictures of a book titled "The Playboy Prince"

 

He's such a f***ing tease  :lol:

 

What does that mean?

MBS is referred to as the playboy prince

 

Right, actually never knew that.

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De Marco posting pictures of a book titled "The Playboy Prince"

He's such a f***ing tease  :lol:

What does that mean?

MBS is referred to as the playboy prince

Right, actually never knew that.

 

The book is also called "The Heir Apparent"

 

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In my lifetime we have won the FA Cup 3 times won the European Fairs cup which was replaced by the UEFA cup lost the FA cup final in 1974 and League cup final in 1976 and runners up in the EPL in 95/96 and lost FA cup finals in 1998 and 1999.  It's not like we haven't had opportunities to win more trophies.

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In my lifetime we have won the FA Cup 3 times won the European Fairs cup which was replaced by the UEFA cup lost the FA cup final in 1974 and League cup final in 1976 and runners up in the EPL in 95/96 and lost FA cup finals in 1998 and 1999.  It's not like we haven't had opportunities to win more trophies.

 

In my lifetime we’ve won nothing. I’m 50 next week....

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In my lifetime we have won the FA Cup 3 times won the European Fairs cup which was replaced by the UEFA cup lost the FA cup final in 1974 and League cup final in 1976 and runners up in the EPL in 95/96 and lost FA cup finals in 1998 and 1999.  It's not like we haven't had opportunities to win more trophies.

 

In my lifetime we’ve won nothing. I’m 50 next week....

Two Texaco cups, an anglo Italian, japan and intertoto you ungrateful git ye.
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