Yorkie Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Cheers, Keith! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I was happy with that tweet until coming in here - the optimism vacuum I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I don’t think it is being construed overly negative. Keith has always been hugely positive and confident in all his posts, but that one comes across so differently to his previous posting. Hopefully it’s just him feeling a little dejected over last nights result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Aye, it ain't happening. We can stop pretending it will. Even the Keith bloke doesn't sound as confident as some on here who actually get most of their confidence from Keith in the first place. Rafa not coming back will leave me with only 1% hope this will ever happen. I had put some of my blind faith in Rafa's movement. Had he left China at anytime and was heading for us to replace baconhead, I would have believed that the buyers were actually dictating things and super confident it was happening. As it is, Rafa has left China but not a peep about him coming here under the potential new owners instructions. Contrastingly, Caulkin even said Rafa would never come back under Ashley so I'm at a loss as to how this can ever happen and soon. That is just my perspective. Each to their own. Cheers, love to go to war with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If what is needed is Bein sports being reinstated in KSA then we should remain hopeful as it seems that is going to happen, and happen pretty soon. Obviously it'll not be that simple will it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I was happy with that tweet until coming in here - the optimism vacuum I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as pissed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 This was his tweet from the other day which again referenced Bein agreement blocking deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I was happy with that tweet until coming in here - the optimism vacuum I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as pissed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this. So if bein is announced to be broadcast in Saudi Arabia the prem will drop everything and the deal will go through ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I was happy with that tweet until coming in here - the optimism vacuum I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as pissed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this. So if bein is announced to be broadcast in Saudi Arabia the prem will drop everything and the deal will go through ? Nah, still the big 6 to convince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I was happy with that tweet until coming in here - the optimism vacuum I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as pissed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this. So if bein is announced to be broadcast in Saudi Arabia the prem will drop everything and the deal will go through ? Saudis WTO appeal needs to be dropped and Beins lawsuit against Saudi piracy also needs to be dropped. Both are expected to be. God knows when like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I was happy with that tweet until coming in here - the optimism vacuum I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as p*ssed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this. So if bein is announced to be broadcast in Saudi Arabia the prem will drop everything and the deal will go through ? Nah, still the big 6 to convince. I think the big 6 are hiding behind piracy, if that obstacle is removed it goes through in my opinion. I don’t think they’ll have any legal case to block it once Bein’s London arbitration hearing is dropped. As far as I’m aware, despite other broadcasters not being happy with Saudi, there are no other legal cases against them that the PL could fall back on. According to many journalists it’s always been about piracy, the so called big 6 have used this to lobby against takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I was happy with that tweet until coming in here - the optimism vacuum I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as p*ssed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this. So if bein is announced to be broadcast in Saudi Arabia the prem will drop everything and the deal will go through ? Nah, still the big 6 to convince. I think the big 6 are hiding behind piracy, if that obstacle is removed it goes through in my opinion. I don’t think they’ll have any legal case to block it once Bein’s London arbitration hearing is dropped. As far as I’m aware, despite other broadcasters not being happy with Saudi, there are no other legal cases against them that the PL could fall back on. According to many journalists it’s always been about piracy, the so called big 6 have used this to lobby against takeover. So its fingers crossed Bein are reinstated, Saudi drop WTO appeal and Bein's legal case against KSA is dropped. That's basically what we need to happen. It shouldn't be but it is. Lets hope it all happens sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Why is relegation such a big deal? The costs incurred are peanuts to these people. They wouldn't even need to buy players. Rafa would walk the league with our current squad. Then the project begins. If Amanda knows anything about Newcastle, the she would know that one year in the 2nd divison wouldn't harm the 'brand'. The place would be on fire once supporters are allowed back. We'd be a raucus juggernaut of a club; a sky sports wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Why is relegation such a big deal? The costs incurred are peanuts to these people. They wouldn't even need to buy players. Rafa would walk the league with our current squad. Then the project begins. If Amanda knows anything about Newcastle, the she would know that one year in the 2nd divison wouldn't harm the 'brand'. The place would be on fire once supporters are allowed back. We'd be a raucus juggernaut of a club; a sky sports wet dream. Even though they have vast amounts of money, surely they wouldn’t want to pay £300 odd million for a second tier club. And there’s no way Ashley will lower his price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. All of the “ITK’s” have stated that it’s off it we’re relegated. Should we choose to believe that they know the takeover is still on but ignore that part? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. According to Mark Douglas the other day it’s not a deal breaker and they would have done deal last season regardless, as it was a long term investment. However, Liam Kennedy thinks it would be so take ya pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. All of the “ITK’s” have stated that it’s off it we’re relegated. Should we choose to believe that they know the takeover is still on but ignore that part? It’s more fact it’s still going on than conjecture though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. If we had PIF & Rafa and fans allowed back, it'd be the most insane 2nd division season ever. We'd be more TV worthy than most of the Prem. Can you imagine the sense of momentum, man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. Well for one, coming straight back up isn't guaranteed so they can't say for sure that's a given Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Interesting piece of trivia: Nick DeMarco used to be the clue creator on 3-2-1. Should be popular with Mohammed Dusty Bin Salman then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Why is relegation such a big deal? The costs incurred are peanuts to these people. They wouldn't even need to buy players. Rafa would walk the league with our current squad. Then the project begins. If Amanda knows anything about Newcastle, the she would know that one year in the 2nd divison wouldn't harm the 'brand'. The place would be on fire once supporters are allowed back. We'd be a raucus juggernaut of a club; a sky sports wet dream. Can't see Rafa doing another Championship season willingly. He's said he knows he has finite time left in management and doesn't want to be spending another season of it in the second division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it goes on any longer PIF won’t want to take over a club looking likely to get relegated. Imo if this goes in to March they either walk away or wait till the season is over and hope we stay up Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. All of the “ITK’s” have stated that it’s off it we’re relegated. Should we choose to believe that they know the takeover is still on but ignore that part? Oh of course not. It's as likely to be as correct as all the other info that they provide. I think i'm looking for reasons as to why Ashley doesn't appear to be panicking. As much as he likes to gamble, I can't believe he (or the buyers) would gamble on this falling through, given how much has been spent on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it was that simple then why the need for 2 legal cases? Strange. Because that's illegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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