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47 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

If we do go down - who approves sponsorship deals in the championship?

 

Anyone? No one? Can we just gives ourselves an enormous wedge?

I'm prepared to pay £250 million a season so some Saudi based company would need to beat that.

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42 minutes ago, Danh1 said:


Great thread.

 

People @ing the owners like a bunch of spoilt Bairns need to fuck clean off like. 


That bloke has Bullshit Keith and Wraith as two of his best mates. He showed time and again during the takeover that he’s absolutely clueless. Personally wouldn’t take notice of anything he says.

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7 minutes ago, et tu brute said:


That bloke has Bullshit Keith and Wraith as two of his best mates. He showed time and again during the takeover that he’s absolutely clueless. Personally wouldn’t take notice of anything he says.


What he says there though is perfectly reasonable and sensible 

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53 minutes ago, Danh1 said:


Great thread.

 

People @ing the owners like a bunch of spoilt Bairns need to fuck clean off like. 


Yep that’s a brilliant thread and well worth a read 

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Just now, LV said:


What he says there though is perfectly reasonable and sensible 


In your opinion, the fact bids (allegedly) are flying in left, right and centre for players doesn’t indicate sustainable investment and nor does that fact Staveley came out that their aim is to win the league in five / ten years time (or she is lying). You don’t get into that position without splashing the cash and heavily. 

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2 hours ago, christ said:

Got as far as “sustainable, measured investments” and laughed so hard I popped a lung.

I laughed at 'probably why it keeps increasing'.  Love the notion that they're accomplished business people, rather than fascists who won the resources lottery.  Kennedy is in line with the nuggets in the fanbase that think that acumen has built up the PIF rather than petrodollars.

 

Staveley did talk about aiming to win the title in ten years - but that still doesn't mean hoying hundreds of millions in.  Leicester didn't - the assumption seems to be 'sensible' investment (she talked of 250m over five windows) and capable management would get them there.

 

Ashley talked about winning things too.  Most PL owners do.

 

It is a 'wait and see'.  The fact that PIF have handed the entire club's running across on a management contract suggests that they do see it as a 'sensible' investment vehicle rather than a sportswashing exercise.

1 hour ago, et tu brute said:


In your opinion, the fact bids (allegedly) are flying in left, right and centre for players doesn’t indicate sustainable investment and nor does that fact Staveley came out that their aim is to win the league in five / ten years time (or she is lying). You don’t get into that position without splashing the cash and heavily. 

A 30m offer for Diego Carlos isn't suggestive of that - and most of the transfer rumours are clear and obvious bollocks.  The club could have comfortably been buying players at those prices for years under its own steam - and has been.  

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11 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

A 30m offer for Diego Carlos isn't suggestive of that - and most of the transfer rumours are clear and obvious bollocks.  The club could have comfortably been buying players at those prices for years under its own steam - and has been.  


Think you’re forgetting the bid for Botman and the signings of Trippier and Wood. I think you already know I disagree with your philosophy of how the club will be ran. We will wait and see though, as the proof will be in the pudding, as they say.

 

 

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2 hours ago, christ said:

Got as far as “sustainable, measured investments” and laughed so hard I popped a lung.

 

Can't think of anything more sustainable and measured than giving Masayoshi Son 50 billion to waste on WeWork and cratering Uber shares.

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Just now, et tu brute said:


Think you’re forgetting the bid for Botman and the signings of Trippier and Wood. I think you already know I disagree with your philosophy of how the club will be ran.

Trippier for c.10m was very sensible -as was his wages.  Wood also not insane.  You wouldn't need petrodollars for those.

 

Again, Staveley said 50m above what the club could generate each window.  Even if they signed BOTH Botman and Carlos for 40m each, that would be in line with that

 

And yeah, I know we disagree on this one - always respectfully of course :) - we're both working on reasonable suppositions would be my view of it.  I can't disprove what you're saying at all - it might well be the case.  I'd be more than happy with seeing a major trophy on Tyneside in the next few years ...

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15 hours ago, ManDoon said:

It’s the relegation fear for me. I can’t relax because I think the PL will fuck us. I really think it’s massively important we stay up. Crucial imo 

 

I'm not so sure on what they could do legally. I mean, they themselves just a few months ago approved the deal. If they change the rules would they actually try and stop teams from being promoted? I think anything that came in before the rules will be fine and it'll be deals that happen after the change that will fail. The PL trying to stop us getting promoted would be an incredible move and one I'm sure that would get laughed out of court, I really can't see it happening. 

 

Unless you mean other changes that could pass while we don't have a seat at the table, although I think they'd pass anyway because its us and maybe only City and Chelsea who'd be against them. 

 

 

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There seems to be an element of shock/surprise from journalists regarding our trip to KSA and I’m not sure if it’s put on, or just stupidity on their part.


It’s clearly a sportswashing exercise and I’m not going to attempt to defend it but to me, it was blindingly obvious it was going to happen as soon as we were taken over. Tell me I’m wrong?

 

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1 hour ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

There seems to be an element of shock/surprise from journalists regarding our trip to KSA and I’m not sure if it’s put on, or just stupidity on their part.


It’s clearly a sportswashing exercise and I’m not going to attempt to defend it but to me, it was blindingly obvious it was going to happen as soon as we were taken over. Tell me I’m wrong?

 

Think your spot on but not about sport washing more to “ showing off your new bird “ but looks like Bella Emberg , in reality I think bad idea and think if it was still Bruce managing and he took us there ? I think we would be up in arms and personally I don’t think they deserve to go there on what they have done so far .

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2 hours ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

There seems to be an element of shock/surprise from journalists regarding our trip to KSA and I’m not sure if it’s put on, or just stupidity on their part.


It’s clearly a sportswashing exercise and I’m not going to attempt to defend it but to me, it was blindingly obvious it was going to happen as soon as we were taken over. Tell me I’m wrong?

 

 

I just saw Pep's press conference where a journalist announced that Newcastle are going to Saudi Arabia, and would he be doing the same, and he said no. 

 

To me the question reeked of jealousy and resentment constant with the general disillusionment that we are challenging the big boys now. But I must stress, this is just my interpretation. 

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20 minutes ago, Biggsbond14 said:

Think your spot on but not about sport washing more to “ showing off your new bird “ but looks like Bella Emberg , in reality I think bad idea and think if it was still Bruce managing and he took us there ? I think we would be up in arms and personally I don’t think they deserve to go there on what they have done so far .

A week away from our shite facilities will do them some good. Maybe inspire one or two of them.

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