TRon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 22:55, Nobody said: We've got one of the best badges in England though (the best in the PL according to my Mrs who doesn't give two shits about football and wouldn't just say that to be nice to me), absolutely no need to change it. Would be gutted if we did change it tbh. As for SJP, I'd much, much rather keep the name, but if it's a deal worth doing, then I wouldn't be too gutted to see it change. SJP needs to still be there mind, and it must never be ruined with tacky shite plastered all over it like our previous owner did with it. Agree, I've always thought Sunderland were so green with envy over our badge that they copied the basic style and put lions instead of seahorses either side. Absolutely love our crest, am surprised to hear any complaints about it, although I suspect we are just talking about cosmetic changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Fucking seahorses I love the badge to bits, but fucking seahorses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, OpenC said: Fucking seahorses I love the badge to bits, but fucking seahorses They're hardly a random addition, they're from Newcastle's coat of arms, dating back to the 16th century. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Aye, I know that They're still seahorses though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I understand the history and the fact that they're representative of something other than actual seahorses, I just think they're a bit of a comedy animal to have on there and I will never be convinced otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, OpenC said: I understand the history and the fact that they're representative of something other than actual seahorses, I just think they're a bit of a comedy animal to have on there and I will never be convinced otherwise But unicorns, they'd be fine, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, OpenC said: Aye, I know that They're still seahorses though I know what you mean but I like 'em Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) I just think if we did a new badge now and somebody thought we should include some sort of portmanteau animal hybrid like a cod with a horse's arse end to reference our historical fishing and farming then, no matter how well done it was, people would rightly look at it and then go I feel the same about the seahorses, however fucking historical they are and however many of them are stuck on the civic centre I'm not clamouring for change, I think the crest is classy as fuck. I just think the seahorses are canny stupid Edited October 14, 2022 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said: But unicorns, they'd be fine, eh? I've been trying to work this out but I can't you'll have to explain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 So they're not supposed to be 'actual' seahorses, but an allegorical portmanteau of land and marine agriculture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I have no idea it may well be the case that the city of Newcastle upon Tyne was founded and became successful on the back of some seahorse related industry of which I'm unaware, but I reckon it's probably just an allegorical reference to seafaring like you say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Izakaya said: So they're not supposed to be 'actual' seahorses, but an allegorical portmanteau of land and marine agriculture? Blinded By The Sun some people re the Seahorses Edited October 14, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Absolutely. Walking in circles. Edited October 14, 2022 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, OpenC said: I've been trying to work this out but I can't you'll have to explain It was ment as a playful reference to you being one of the few brexiteer posters in the brexit thread, iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I'm pleased to note that it still means nowt even in that context then, though I guess Orwell's The Lion And The Unicorn must mean something. Just pretend I was Jeremy Corbyn or Mick Lynch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Fucking hell it's like being in Narnia this thread at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 says the poster with the Latin user name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I just get triggered by the seahorses every time and people always get proper defensive of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I tend to get quite snooty and refer to them as a Hippocampus rather than a seahorse. The half-horse-half-fish that Poseidon used to pull his chariot in Greek mythology probably has a bit more "cred" than the weird-looking thing you see hanging around seaweed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Seahorses and Magpies are both very uncool non-stoic looking animals like, but I kind of like it. It's from an era where we seemingly didn't really attach masculinity to animals, mascots and objects like Lions, Wolves, Tigers Devils, Cats etc. Football clubs and fans were just like, ooh we're the magpies, owls, bees, cherries etc and presumably no one cared. Edited October 14, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Two spuggies would be my choice shivering whippet across the top of the badge maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I tend to get quite snooty and refer to them as a Hippocampus rather than a seahorse. The half-horse-half-fish that Poseidon used to pull his chariot in Greek mythology probably has a bit more "cred" than the weird-looking thing you see hanging around seaweed. Yep, that’s because they are hippocampi, not little sea-horses that swim in the sea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Honestly I'm not 100% that I feel a whole lot better about Greek semiseahorses that pull gods around but anyway I don't want a badge that just says Newcastle United in a 2022 font but if we get to the stage that we have to think about it I reckon there must be a middle ground between mediaeval pageantry, greek mythology and cutting edge modernism Edited October 14, 2022 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 The whole aesthetic of the city crest is great though imo. It doesn't matter that it's seahorses or whatever, the full thing and its symmetry looks class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Aye, I absolutely agree, and I love the way the current NUFC crest looks as I say. I just always laugh a bit at the choice of animal, like I would if they'd gone for a mole or an axolotl or a pigeon or whatever, even if they were really well drawn and were axolotls that carried the sun in some Peruvian creation myth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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