Eddie Howe

[TRon]

The alternative to Willock is Hayden.

 

The alternative to Lewis is Ritchie.

 

The alternative to Manquillo is Murphy or Krafth. 

 

Are we really surprised we are struggling? 

[The Merse]

I thought he might have coaxed a little bit more cohesive play going forward but not a bit of that today - u might as well stick two cloggers in midfield and play long 

[NEEJ]

Our options are absolutely minging, like. 

[The Prophet]

First time he properly got it wrong today.

[Chicane]

Agree re: team selection (other than Fede). The squad is minging but this is what we've got, he has to get more out of them. That's the job he signed up for

[toon25]

It was an embarrassing result today. 

[Hanshithispantz]

5 minutes ago, 54 said:

I said in the match thread, but people where praising the team sheet before the game, and I personally think it was our best 11, the squad all over just lacks quality, and thats just the sad state of things at the moment. Centre mid needs changing, but our options are so limited its ridiculous.

 

There are plenty ways we can change things to make us more combative in the middle like. Joelinton could play deeper in a midfield 3 for one. Hayden is shite on the ball but infinitely better than Willock at breaking up play for another.

 

 

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Chicane said:

Agree re: team selection (other than Fede). The squad is minging but this is what we've got, he has to get more out of them. That's the job he signed up for

 

He might need to go back to Bruce tactics. 9 men back and hope Max or Wilson grab a goal from nowhere. 

[Thumbheed]

*Kneejerk reaction*

 

I've made the point previously that Howe does not have the time to learn from mistakes and yet 5 games into his tenureship we still appear to be making the same ones.

 

There's been a couple of clear positives from his time with us that I'd have expected him to have identified and built on as a bare minimum, such as Joelinton being better suited on the flank and Fernández being our best defender and yet he's failed to do so, which to me deserves criticism. 

 

Play patterns, formations, defensive solidarity and team selection are all up for debate at this point in time, but when the few points that are obvious to the majority isn't obvious to the man in charge then that's something to be concerned about imo. 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Thumbheed

[Hanshithispantz]

We don't need to play Bruce ball. Joelinton looks worse the further up the pitch he is yet we're playing him in a front 2 whilst our midfield is getting run over. 

[Kid Icarus]

It's all well and good saying drop this player and that player because it's rarely as simple as that, but surely he has to find a way to adapt the team so that Willock and Lascelles can be dropped. Putting someone else in for Willock might mean a reshuffle and a change in system but bringing Fede in like for like should be face-slappingly obvious by now.

[TRon]

1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said:

We don't need to play Bruce ball. Joelinton looks worse the further up the pitch he is yet we're playing him in a front 2 whilst our midfield is getting run over. 

 

If Howe wants to play like he did with Bournemouth then he needs to get a functional midfield and full backs who can get forward without losing the ball. 

[joeyt]

14 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

First time he properly got it wrong today.

Norwich?

[Fantail Breeze]

He just needs to learn Lascelles shouldn’t be anywhere near the team and Shelvey and Willock is not a CM pairing.

 

Worry for us unless he has a pair of bollocks to drop Captain Fistpumps.

[Yorkie]

Just now, joeyt said:

Norwich?

 

Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. 

[robbo_11]

He puts a lot on statistics and metrics, but we need to look at players.

[joeyt]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. 

He shouldn't have started him

[Hanshithispantz]

Just now, TRon said:

 

If Howe wants to play like he did with Bournemouth then he needs to get a functional midfield and full backs who can get forward without losing the ball. 

We need a CDM (every team does tbf) and the fact we haven't got one is criminal. Until then though we need to find a way to prevent teams from bullying us. I don't know, going 3 in the middle with possibly Hayden coming in seems the easiest option. Willock either on the bench or switch his position with Joelinton, he should be nowhere near the centre of the pitch though.

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, robbo_11 said:

He puts a lot on statistics and metrics, but we need to look at players.

 

Winning the stats in a match we actually lost 4-0 won’t do much for us in May.

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. 

 

This.

[Guest HTT II]

Miserable performance, yes the players are crap, but where was the game plan, tactics and style of play? 

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. 

But not harsh to criticise him for starting him in the first place.

[Jaqen]

We have too many players who offer nowt who'd have to start regardless of selection. The season will hinge on January, damage limitation until then. 

[TRon]

Just now, HTT II said:

Miserable performance, yes the players are crap, but where was the game plan, tactics and style of play? 

 

Or more accurately, where are the players who can implement them? That is Howe's challenge, because he was shown quite categorically that the team he picked today can't be trusted to do it. 

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, TRon said:

 

Or more accurately, where are the players who can implement them? That is Howe's challenge, because he was shown quite categorically that the team he picked today can't be trusted to do it. 

If we don’t have the players which we clearly don’t, he has to try and get something going with what he has until he can bring in new players.