TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 The alternative to Willock is Hayden. The alternative to Lewis is Ritchie. The alternative to Manquillo is Murphy or Krafth. Are we really surprised we are struggling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I thought he might have coaxed a little bit more cohesive play going forward but not a bit of that today - u might as well stick two cloggers in midfield and play long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Our options are absolutely minging, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 First time he properly got it wrong today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Agree re: team selection (other than Fede). The squad is minging but this is what we've got, he has to get more out of them. That's the job he signed up for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 It was an embarrassing result today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, 54 said: I said in the match thread, but people where praising the team sheet before the game, and I personally think it was our best 11, the squad all over just lacks quality, and thats just the sad state of things at the moment. Centre mid needs changing, but our options are so limited its ridiculous. There are plenty ways we can change things to make us more combative in the middle like. Joelinton could play deeper in a midfield 3 for one. Hayden is shite on the ball but infinitely better than Willock at breaking up play for another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicane said: Agree re: team selection (other than Fede). The squad is minging but this is what we've got, he has to get more out of them. That's the job he signed up for He might need to go back to Bruce tactics. 9 men back and hope Max or Wilson grab a goal from nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) *Kneejerk reaction* I've made the point previously that Howe does not have the time to learn from mistakes and yet 5 games into his tenureship we still appear to be making the same ones. There's been a couple of clear positives from his time with us that I'd have expected him to have identified and built on as a bare minimum, such as Joelinton being better suited on the flank and Fernández being our best defender and yet he's failed to do so, which to me deserves criticism. Play patterns, formations, defensive solidarity and team selection are all up for debate at this point in time, but when the few points that are obvious to the majority isn't obvious to the man in charge then that's something to be concerned about imo. Edited December 12, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 We don't need to play Bruce ball. Joelinton looks worse the further up the pitch he is yet we're playing him in a front 2 whilst our midfield is getting run over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 It's all well and good saying drop this player and that player because it's rarely as simple as that, but surely he has to find a way to adapt the team so that Willock and Lascelles can be dropped. Putting someone else in for Willock might mean a reshuffle and a change in system but bringing Fede in like for like should be face-slappingly obvious by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: We don't need to play Bruce ball. Joelinton looks worse the further up the pitch he is yet we're playing him in a front 2 whilst our midfield is getting run over. If Howe wants to play like he did with Bournemouth then he needs to get a functional midfield and full backs who can get forward without losing the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Prophet said: First time he properly got it wrong today. Norwich? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 He just needs to learn Lascelles shouldn’t be anywhere near the team and Shelvey and Willock is not a CM pairing. Worry for us unless he has a pair of bollocks to drop Captain Fistpumps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, joeyt said: Norwich? Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo_11 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 He puts a lot on statistics and metrics, but we need to look at players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. He shouldn't have started him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, TRon said: If Howe wants to play like he did with Bournemouth then he needs to get a functional midfield and full backs who can get forward without losing the ball. We need a CDM (every team does tbf) and the fact we haven't got one is criminal. Until then though we need to find a way to prevent teams from bullying us. I don't know, going 3 in the middle with possibly Hayden coming in seems the easiest option. Willock either on the bench or switch his position with Joelinton, he should be nowhere near the centre of the pitch though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, robbo_11 said: He puts a lot on statistics and metrics, but we need to look at players. Winning the stats in a match we actually lost 4-0 won’t do much for us in May. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Miserable performance, yes the players are crap, but where was the game plan, tactics and style of play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Still feel it's extremely harsh to level the extent of Clark's stupidity at Howe. But not harsh to criticise him for starting him in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 We have too many players who offer nowt who'd have to start regardless of selection. The season will hinge on January, damage limitation until then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, HTT II said: Miserable performance, yes the players are crap, but where was the game plan, tactics and style of play? Or more accurately, where are the players who can implement them? That is Howe's challenge, because he was shown quite categorically that the team he picked today can't be trusted to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, TRon said: Or more accurately, where are the players who can implement them? That is Howe's challenge, because he was shown quite categorically that the team he picked today can't be trusted to do it. If we don’t have the players which we clearly don’t, he has to try and get something going with what he has until he can bring in new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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