gjohnson Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 He's taken a club that was dead and buried by almost everyone to touching distance of the top half in half a season. Yes January investment helped, but regardless that's a massive achievement and should have showed up Bacon chops for the managerial fraud that he is. Hope he can continue the form without relegation pressure, and there's no calls for his head if we don't win any of the first few games next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jackie Broon Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, hakka said: It's irritating the fuck out of me seeing people on social media saying us spending £90m in January has bought our 2022 form. There's way more to the story than to distill it down to money = staying up. Yeah, Villa spent £91m in the summer and another £25m in January, plus Coutinho on loan, and finished three places below us. It's such a lazy and uninformed response. Edited May 23, 2022 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rich said: Just wait until we're winning stuff. It'll be delicious. https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/newcastle-united-howey-the-lads.33657/page-57#:~:text=May 16%2C 2022-,%231%2C121,-Riou Absolute scum club this. Even when they were everybody's second team in the mid 90s, they basically just bought their way to that success...I say success, have win **** all since like the 60s. Embarrassing the money they spent back then, to not even win a cup. Now, they are the new Chelsea and City, no history just a dirty rich owner... enjoy your blood success now, you Geordie Bellends. That's just from us ending their top 4 hopes (forever) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said: It's one of the most boring narratives going and anyone trying to make such a point should also have to explain what a shrewd piece of business it was spending more than a quarter of that on Chris Wood. They won't and can't. Chris Wood did a job...yes he didn't score enough, but he changed the dynamic and style of the team to make it more effective. A piece in the puzzle so to speak. He knows, Eddie knows, and we know he won't be the long term solution and will almost certainly be replaced within a year. However he worked his behind off, and we got results with him in the team. Yes we overpaid for what he's directly delivered, but we also looked so more balanced and dangerous with him....at the same time effectively wrapping up one of the relegation spots by taking one of Burnleys better players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) wow, this thread should be renamed "Eddie, how?" Edited May 23, 2022 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Yeah, Villa spent £91m in the summer and another £25m in January, plus Coutinho on loan, and finished three places below us. It's such a lazy and uninformed response. Everyone conveniently ignores us spending just £25m in the summer window on a player we already had on loan. We then spent the bare minimum in January just to keep our heads above water. That shouldn't have resulted in 11th place - that's on Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, reefatoon said: The other 19 teams bought their form in the summer, we were just catching up in January. 100% this. I don't get how folk that trot out the "£90 million in January" don't want to or can't see this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 'No history' about a club that moved to its home 21 years before Arsenal did is a good one. Edited May 23, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smal Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 There’s an element of truth to the January signings keeping us up though. Howe clearly needed a few players to fit how he wanted to play. We especially needed a left back and a left footed centre back. Ritchie, Clark and Lewis were costing us every game. We lost to Cambridge at home, couldn’t beat Brentford, Watford or Norwich at home etc. Of course I’m not saying it was all down to the signings but they were clearly a necessary part of how well Howe has done (and he has done amazingly well even with the signings playing out of their skins). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Smal said: There’s an element of truth to the January signings keeping us up though. Howe clearly needed a few players to fit how he wanted to play. We especially needed a left back and a left footed centre back. Ritchie, Clark and Lewis were costing us every game. We lost to Cambridge at home, couldn’t beat Brentford, Watford or Norwich at home etc. Of course I’m not saying it was all down to the signings but they were clearly a necessary part of how well Howe has done (and he has done amazingly well even with the signings playing out of their skins). Probably what spurred them on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassassin Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) After the 1-1 draw with Watford in January we had played 20 games and accrued 12 points. Over the next 18 games we accrued 37 points; that is a phenomenal achievement and done with Trippier largely missing and Guimaraes being ‘bedded in’ over a period of games with other players who were short on form and confidence Edited May 23, 2022 by Yassassin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Chris Wood did a job...yes he didn't score enough, but he changed the dynamic and style of the team to make it more effective. A piece in the puzzle so to speak. He knows, Eddie knows, and we know he won't be the long term solution and will almost certainly be replaced within a year. However he worked his behind off, and we got results with him in the team. Yes we overpaid for what he's directly delivered, but we also looked so more balanced and dangerous with him....at the same time effectively wrapping up one of the relegation spots by taking one of Burnleys better players But never warranted a £25m fee. My point is the same people who are bleating about our spending now are also those who sneered at the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 It's really tiring how people go on like we were the only club to sign a player in January. All other clubs have the opportunity to do so and some even make use of it too. The system has been in place for twenty years and it wasn't created especially for us. In today's market, £90 million on four permanent first team players (plus a loan) isn't a great deal of money, doesn't even add up to a Jack Grealish. Everton spent as much as what it takes to buy the entire Newcastle United football club company one and a half times and they celebrate that outlay not getting relegated as if it's them winning the quadruple. In summary: Eddie Howe is amazing, he's perfect for us and I love him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, huss9 said: wow, this thread should be renamed "Eddie, how?" Surely it should be Eddie, WOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 ..Something in the way he woos me I don't want him to leave me now You know I believe in Howe.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) Bit of Humble Pie from Simon Jordan earlier today... Edited May 23, 2022 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) Feel dirty finding myself agreeing with Jordan occasionally, like. There's no doubt he's a Tory and presumably a monarchist, but he said he fully understood why Liverpool fans were booing Prince William at the cup final and were entitled to their views, while Jim White was gasping to paint them as absolute scum. Booing the national anthem was too far though, apparently. Spoiler For disclosure, I was sat in Kwik Fit having new tyres and TalkSport was on Edited May 23, 2022 by WarrenBartonCentrePartin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, TK-421 said: Bit of Humble Pie from Simon Jordan earlier today... Used to hate Simon Jordan but he is strangely starting to make me think he's alright. At least he is man enough to admit he got it badly wrong. Other pundits and journo's who originally ridiculed us will now say fuck all negative and just go with the flow and hope their original thoughts are swept under the carpet and forgotten about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 He's a twat. Takes banter about getting things wrong on the chin though, such as Howe and the takeover actually happening so fair play for that. But he's still a twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: He's a twat. Takes banter about getting things wrong on the chin though, such as Howe and the takeover actually happening so fair play for that. But he's still a twat. I thought same for years about him, but listened to him with Talksport on radio while driving a lot across last several months and now I don't think he's a twat at all. Seems alright tbh. I did post something about it in the "not worth of a thread" thread, questioning my sanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: He's a twat. Takes banter about getting things wrong on the chin though, such as Howe and the takeover actually happening so fair play for that. But he's still a twat. Oh aye, there's still a pompous attitude there, but it takes a bigger man to admit he was wrong and give credit where it's due. The likes of Delaney and scaresthebairns will never give Howe credit for what he's achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Phew, I can sleep now knowing that Simon Jordan is happy with the job Howe has done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Nah he’s a condescending tosser still! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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