Eddie Howe

[gbandit]

Hope Mings gives him a good stare down when Gerrard gets laid off

[wormy]

But guys, I don't think you understand.. If we had Gerrard we could've had Coutinho. Think of the pulling power! Everyone wants to play for Stevie Geeeee. 

[Rich]

Villa being shite will never not be funny.

[Danh1]

Wonder what impact losing Beale will have on Villa. Seemingly he was the mastermind behind Rangers’ success under Stevie Geeee.

[Emotic]

12 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

I had to check the date as I felt sure it was 8 months old.

It was written November 2021. Still, the quality of writing is “sixth form essay on why you think Stevie G is the best.”. Best bit was when he implied that the number of fans welcoming a new manager was meaningful in any way whatsoever 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Emotic

[McCormick]

Brummie aside, as fans they’re some of the biggest wankers in football.

 

They’ve always had a weird disdain for us and seem to be taking our resurgence particularly badly as well.

[Happinesstan]

2 minutes ago, Emotic said:

It was written November 2021. Still, the quality of writing is “sixth form essay on why you think Stevie G is the best.”. Best bit was when he implied that the number of fans welcoming a new manager was meaningful in any way whatsoever 

 

 

 

Ah right. I see that now. I looked at the wrong date.

[toon25]

Wonder if Poch would take the gig if Gerrard was binned?

[Guest HTT II]

I was intrigued by the idea of Gerrard as our potential manager when we were linked with him, although he was way down on any list of my preferred managers at the time. From what I gathered he had a decent team around him in terms of specific coaches, data analysts and other coaching people and he was the kind of man manager and motivator who didn’t do much of any coaching really. It worked for him at Rangers, where he did do a decent job.

 

But the SPL and PL are two different animals, one is a two team league and here, it’s so competitive and very unforgiving. On the surface he seems to have signed well at Villa, but it does scream a scattergun type approach and I’m not sure where some exactly fit nor does Gerrard seem to be able to put whatever playing style or tactics down to any great effect.
 

As we all know, when things don’t go right, all the man management and motivation in the world will not arrest a slide or turn around a bad situation and lead to success. We saw that with Roy Keane at SAFC and with Bruce here and it now appears Gerard’s man management is not so good, throwing Mings under the bus for example publicly. He basically comes across as a bit of an angry, it’s my way or the highway type manager, basically another British PFM.

 

A lot of my family are from Birmingham and some support Villa and they can’t stand him and think he’s another Bruce in the making  and want him out. They also don’t rate Digne, we’re pissed off they let Targget go and consider Coutinho a lazy bastard who goes missing and will continue to get away with it as he’s their marquee signing and Gerard’s mate basically.

 

I think they are in for a tough season and I’m so happy we have Eddie Howe as our manager and not someone like Gerrard or Lampard.

[Guest HTT II]

11 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Wonder if Poch would take the gig if Gerrard was binned?

My money would be on Rafa or Rodgers given who their CEO is and his links to them via LFC.

[Gaztoon]

Loved rafa but could never really enjoyed it because the inevitable was always going to happen with Ashley was incharge.

 

Now we can dream under Howe without the fear of him walking because the owners don't share his ambitions . 

[Guest HTT II]

Howe for me is a far more modern manager in every way to Rafa, but tactically Rafa is as good as they come and Howe has a long way to go yet to show he’s as capable in that area, if he does, then he will become an elite manager.

[Happinesstan]

4 minutes ago, HTT II said:

I was intrigued by the idea of Gerrard as our potential manager when we were linked with him, although he was way down on any list of my preferred managers at the time. From what I gathered he had a decent team around him in terms of specific coaches, data analysts and other coaching people and he was the kind of man manager and motivator who didn’t do much of any coaching really. It worked for him at Rangers, where he did do a decent job.

 

But the SPL and PL are two different animals, one is a two team league and here, it’s so competitive and very unforgiving. On the surface he seems to have signed well at Villa, but it does scream a scattergun type approach and I’m not sure where some exactly fit nor does Gerrard seem to be able to put whatever playing style or tactics down to any great effect.
 

As we all know, when things don’t go right, all the man management and motivation in the world will not arrest a slide or turn around a bad situation and lead to success. We saw that with Roy Keane at SAFC and with Bruce here and it now appears Gerard’s man management is not so good, throwing Mings under the bus for example publicly. He basically comes across as a bit of an angry, it’s my way or the highway type manager, basically another British PFM.

 

A lot of my family are from Birmingham and some support Villa and they can’t stand him and think he’s another Bruce in the making  and want him out. They also don’t rate Digne, we’re pissed off they let Targget go and consider Coutinho a lazy bastard who goes missing and will continue to get away with it as he’s their marquee signing and Gerard’s mate basically.

 

I think they are in for a tough season and I’m so happy we have Eddie Howe as our manager and not someone like Gerrard or Lampard.

Did he not demand his own team before signing. Surely any good, self-aware manager would insist on having the team that contributed to his successes.

[STM]

The most damning thing I can say about Gerrard, is that I think Lampard is a better manager.

 

At least Lampard had the balls to swallow his pride and play more conservative at Everton. At least Lampard has had a galvanising effect on their club.

 

Gerrard has been given the keys to the bank and still can't get a tune out of them. I knew something was wrong when I saw that stupid narrow formation he employs.

 

Didn't he leave Buendia on the bench yesterday? Get a bid in Eddie.

[Abacus]

19 minutes ago, STM said:

The most damning thing I can say about Gerrard, is that I think Lampard is a better manager.

 

I'd agree with that. It's very hard to take too much from the first game of the season, but Lampard walked into the harder job to start with. 

 

Despite having lost his best attacking player and working under restrictions, I think Everton gave a decent account of themselves yesterday, and might have had a point.

 

Not saying I rate either of them, mind, and the idea of appointing people based on their name alone seems daft. Though, I've a lot more respect for the way Rooney has tried to go about things.

 

In retrospect, it looks like our decision-makers got the Howe choice absolutely right, even if they had a slice of luck with not getting Emery. And also with Rafa not being an option then. Nothing against either of those two, but I've not been this invested in a manager since...well, before Ashley anyway.

 

Anyway, my first pick for the managerial sack race this year is the dislikeable Ralph Hasenhuttel. Think Gerard and Lampard will have a couple of streaky runs plus media mates to keep them safe for longer (like a certain Mr Bruce).

 

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Abacus

[Happinesstan]

The decision to appoint Howe, over Gerrard or Lampard, is without doubt the best decision our owners could have made. Those two were the lazy choices, but we obviously put some thought into it. If every decision is taken with the same fastidiousness we'll be okay. Impatient, but okay.

[Guest HTT II]

32 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

Did he not demand his own team before signing. Surely any good, self-aware manager would insist on having the team that contributed to his successes.

He did and got them, but he’s lost his main man.

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, Happinesstan said:

The decision to appoint Howe, over Gerrard or Lampard, is without doubt the best decision our owners could have made. Those two were the lazy choices, but we obviously put some thought into it. If every decision is taken with the same fastidiousness we'll be okay. Impatient, but okay.

Howe interviewed so well and give them a clear blueprint of how he would transform the club on and off the pitch, he’s Rafa like in his meticulous planning and his attention to detail.

[Happinesstan]

Just now, HTT II said:

He did and got them, but he’s lost his main man.

8 months [probably less, I'm guessing] in, His main man walks away? Says it all if you ask me. I've genuinely no beef with Gerrard, or Lampard, I guess they're cursed in a way, with the media building them up. But, as @Abacus says, Rooney is demonstrating that you can go about things discreetly. I often forget he even exists.

[Happinesstan]

4 minutes ago, HTT II said:

Howe interviewed so well and give them a clear blueprint of how he would transform the club on and off the pitch, he’s Rafa like in his meticulous planning and his attention to detail.

Aye. I guess Villa and Everton never had Howe as an option so didn't get to see what they could have won.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, bowlingcrofty said:

https://www.villatalk.com/topic/22443-steven-gerrard/?do=findComment&comment=3859795
 

 

They were probably used to Bruce telling them that like he did with us too.

[Pilko]

From that Villa forum

 

[Cronky]

I've always hoped that one day, my club would appoint a really exceptional manager. Someone who could get individuals and a team to play way beyond their usual abilities. Nowadays, you need someone like that to win anything, because the big six have a huge financial advantage, and FFP makes it difficult to bridge the gap.

 

Well now I think we have one. I had a worry that some of the spirit and determination that took us out of trouble last season might be difficult to recover. That would be understandable, but yesterday, it was like nothing had changed. The momentum was still there.

 

The squad, on an individual basis, still doesn't look all that great to me. Howe is over-achieving on a scale we haven't seen before, and I don't think it's going to stop.

[McCormick]

It’s his amazing work ethic that’s so endearing as well. Wants his team to work non-stop on the field and he leads by example through doing just that off it. I love the guy.

[HawK]

2 hours ago, LV said:

Mmmmmm… Delicious!