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56 minutes ago, Likelylad said:

I agree with the graceful bit but i do think Robson would have picked someone like Bruce or some other PFM type. 

No if I remember rightly he wanted Mourinho and even asked him to be his assistant. He was knowledgeable about Continental football, even at Barcelona he chose Ronaldo when he could have chosen Shearer etc so defo wasn’t obvious that he would have gone PFM

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1 hour ago, Mattoon said:

 

Such a stupid thought process by Freddie too, the players are the problem, no respect so let's bring in someone hard and shouty. 

It was the nadir of Shepherd's running of the club. We ricocheted between managerial styles subsequently.

 

Robson's failing was probably that he was trying to handle situations with more class than the club deserved at the time. It would've been ugly, but it might have worked out better if he'd aired some dirty laundry in public e.g. Shepherd effectively making himself DOF for incomings and outgoings. It wasn't Robson's style to do such a thing, of course.

 

Re: Robson's departure, I backed him but the writing on the wall was so clear that I kind of wanted to get his departure over and done with because it was all so undignified. But when Souness was first linked I thought it was a sick joke. I remember watching developments on SSN and I couldn't believe what was happening - he was about a fortnight away from being sacked for underperformance at Blackburn at the time.

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Yep, I remember it too. Thought the person who told me was joking, then checked Ceefax. Just aghast really, seemed like everyone in the entire world other than Freddy Shepherd knew it was going to be a total disaster. An incredible appointment which totally knackered the trajectory of the club; alright, 03/04 was a long way behind the two years which preceded it but we were still up there. 

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Pay close attention to 9:35 mins in, it sounds so simple, I have a feeling Eddie might have a very high IQ he's just hiding it behind a humble exterior. I've not heard of that concept before, he makes it sound like it's nothing but on paper it's genius. He should keep that quiet, Guardiola will steal it :iamatwat:

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7 minutes ago, Oregon_Geordie said:

Genuine, humble, honest, talented, hard working, young. Our boss! He has a little bit of Keegan, Rafa and Robson in him. Love the guy!

 

The "talented" needs to be emphasised, he's more than just hard work, he's very clever

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Man I just waxed poetic about him down at the brewery tonight for like 30 minutes on the back of this podcast. A bunch of soccer dudes and they were absolutely enthralled about what I was saying I had learned about Eddie and his philosophy from this podcast. Just totally engaging stuff from him. 
 

We hit the fucking jackpot y’all. 

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5 hours ago, elbee909 said:

I remember being so angry when Souness was appointed. I was on my way to Netto at the time to pick something up for my mum. I don't know why I remember that anger and situation so clearly.

 

SSN read out my angry email :lol: 

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The thing that excites me most about Eddie is his how dedicated he is to improving and winning.

 

Robson and Keegan, both nice blokes with emotional personalities which endeared them to us but also was a big weak spot. We had good sides, but never had that extra mettle or tactical nous that drives true success. 
 

With Eddie I see a nice bloke who’s easy to like but with a ruthless desire to plan, improve and win. He’s scientific and calculated.
 

Our outstanding defensive performances are a great example of this in action. 

 

 

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Aye it's what he's all about, constant reflection, constant improvement, nothings ever as good as it can be. 

 

It's what makes me think he'll be here for long time as I just don't see a time when we'll stagnate, he'll continue to learn/teach himself and we'll evolve with him. 

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I'm not being sensationalist here, but I genuinely think Howe is the best manager of my lifetime - better than Keegan and SBR, and I love them both dearly.

 

He has it all, and I think we've just seen the first year of a dynasty that will end up being compared to SAF and Pep in time.

 

Amazing time to be a Toon fan.

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Eddie's biggest enemy is Eddie himself. With his own high standards, coupled with expectations from everyone associated with the new Newcastle United, his innate intensity may also cause him to burn out lot faster than his time at Bournemouth.

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I agree that if he’s here in three year’s time he will likely eclipse Bobby and Keegan because there’s no way we’re not going to be top 4 in three year’s time and a force in the cups. I genuinely think we’ll win something with him in these next three years. The only thing that could go wrong is if he doesn’t get backed but I’ve got no concerns about that at all. He’s absolutely fucking class and like he said in the podcast, his greatest strength is improving players. Who else improves players to the degree that he does, whilst also instilling huge confidence in them and working out perfect tactical systems? I love him 

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I think he burnt out at Bournemouth because he was working within such a limited financial system in order to keep them progressing. He got them as far as they possibly could but he always wanted more. Now, he can go as far as he wants with us with no restraints and I think he’s maybe better at delegating than he used to be. I don’t think he’s going to burn out here 

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A very enjoyable listen but I actually felt a bit sad at some of what he said. His 'obsession' (for want of a better word) seems almost overwhelming & a divisive thing in his life. It was interesting to hear him talk about if he enjoyed the experience of being a manager as well. 

 

That Bournemouth thread is excellent too - I totally missed the Arter situation. Fantastic stuff.

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