Cf Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I do like the idea of whilst the results are coming in you keep your place. But if we are aiming high you could argue draws against Leeds and Palace aren't good enough. We are arguing between the difference between very good and very very good. But if you want to be at the top that's the difference maker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 And I should also add I defer to Howe's judgement. He knows a hell of a lot more than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 It's an interesting conundrum for him. I'm sure he'll know better than anyone that we need a bit more in attack but we still look so damn good defensively that he'll be wary of losing that in the pursuit of goals. It's a shame that Targett is injured as I think bringing him in for Burn would freshen things up a bit. He's defensively solid enough that he could be used on the left of a three like Burn is when we have possession but he'd also be able to offer something different if we want to change it up from time to time. Aside from that the obvious potential spark is playing ASM or even Isak on the left. Joelinton, Willock and Longstaff all being on the pitch at the same time does mean we're lacking in quality in that final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Polar opposite of what was predicted by the media and pundits when Howe came in. The defence is amazing. We rarely give up chances, never mind concede. But if I’m being critical. We have looked lost and a bit clueless in attack in a good few games now this season. Ultimately, we are over-achieving and he isn’t spoiled for choice with attacking options. But we are going to have to change something, somehow. As most teams have sussed out how to play against us, up to a point. Sitting deep is effective and nullifies a lot of what we’re good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I feel like some of the reactions in here are slightly over the top We are third in the league on +23 goal difference and in the semi finals of a cup, having just had one of the best years results wise in the clubs history in 2022. I Get that we've not scored many in the last 4 games, but its not due to a system error, we've create a fair few chances in each of the last four, it's just players just haven't put away them clear cut chances away. Every team will have a blip over a season to think otherwise is ridiculous, if this is ours, we're in really really good shape. I also think people need to remember that we are way way way ahead of schedule too, and 60% of our squad was here in the Ashley era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Polar opposite of what was predicted by the media and pundits when Howe came in. The defence is amazing. We rarely give up chances, never mind concede. But if I’m being critical. We have looked lost and a bit clueless in attack in a good few games now this season. Ultimately, we are over-achieving and he isn’t spoiled for choice with attacking options. But we are going to have to change something, somehow. As most teams have sussed out how to play against us, up to a point. Sitting deep is effective and nullifies a lot of what we’re good at. Form guide from January 2022 tells us we are where we should be! Eddie will get this right and hopefully an unlocker of the doors comes in before January is out! We are a work in progress. This time last year! Amazing turnaround Edited January 21, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I still think we miss matt Targett for set pieces. It's all same old same with trips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Interesting that his defensive record was what a fair few complained about at first. We are so far ahead of what I expected that it’s just ridiculous. But there is a good opportunity this window to accelerate the process even more. Totally agree. Main fear was Howe's Bournemouth teams were bad defensively and at the time the Mags were shipping in goals like they were Leeds. Eddie has the team locking down almost everyone so getting in some creative players can push us forward to unlock some of these low block tactics. Great opportunity here and I trust the business side has been working their tails off to get revenue up to facilitate this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 A club record 15 unbeaten. Woof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cf said: Ridiculous he had the title. That stretch where we inexplicably had the best defense in the league with Ryan Taylor playing at left back It’s hard to even conceive of when you consider what happened after, but we genuinely came pretty close to making the CL that year. Edited January 21, 2023 by oldtype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: A club record 15 unbeaten. Woof. He's great, the fact we went there tonight and he was so pissed off with a 0 0 makes me so happy, Bruce would want an OBE for a 0 0 at the Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Even the best teams have off days or small runs of games where they look less cohesive. It happens, and we're not even a top squad yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 The team needs some tweaks so I expect incremental changes to test the balance going forward. I don't think Maxi or Isak we're ready to start today but Tuesday is a great one to at least get one in the starting XI. I have a feeling he's been keeping the consistency recently for the cup tie as a solid defence is a way to a trophy, despite some of the attacking troubles. Tbh, I wouldn't even call them troubles, we're just not being clinical despite decent chance creation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I think we would be better off starting ASM and when he runs out of steam bring on Willock to replace him. Big Joe should only ever start in midfield. Isak needs to start instead of someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 It’s not all on Howes selections either, in the games we have drew lately we’ve created more than enough chances to win. Today, Joelinton really should have scored in the first half, we had some good headed chances 2nd half. It’s not as though we aren’t creating chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) Still only been trailing in matches for 81 minutes of the season (23 minutes v Man City, 52 minutes v Wolves, 5 v Bournemouth & 1 v Liverpool). That's out of 1800 minutes plus say 100 minutes of stoppage time. That's insane. Arsenal have trailed for around 90 minutes all season as a comparison. Edited January 21, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Love him! What a guy! Can't quite believe the stats! Especially as all my life we've been defensively, pretty crap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) We’re not winning the ball as high up the pitch recently. A lot of our chances have come from that. Teams have figured out and are trying to mitigate it. We’ll need to evolve a bit to present a different problem. Won’t happen overnight and may need some new players to do it. Good teams find a way. I don’t think we’re there yet but that’ll be the next challenge. Personally I’m not sure top 4 is on this season. It’s inevitable to plateau. No one needs to panic over it either. Wouldn’t be surprised if we slip back a little. Other teams around and below us have far superior squads. Hope I’m wrong. Maybe ASM and Isak can really spark things off. Edited January 22, 2023 by Lotus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) People are definitely going over the top, I it's quite simplistic to just look at us scoring 1 in 4 games and thinking there is an issue If you breakdown the stats of those games Vs Leeds = xG 2.18 Vs 0.36, 7 big chances Vs 0 big chances, 16 shots Vs 8 shots Vs Arsenal = xG 1.06 Vs 1.12, 2 big chances Vs 0 big chances, 8 shots Vs 17 shots Vs Fulham = xG 2.36 Vs 1.11 (Mitro pen bulk of this), 2 big chances Vs 1 big chance, 20 shots Vs 5 shots, Vs Palace = xG 1.25 Vs 0.30, 2 big chances Vs 0 big chances, 16 shots Vs 6 shots That's a minimum of 2 big chances in each game, overall 13 big chances Vs 1 for the opposition (which was the Mitro penalty) We are creating chances, very good ones, a lot of them are just falling to the likes of Longstaff and Joelinton. This shows Howe has got the balance right, just being let down by some poor finishing or poor passing in the final 3rd. As Shearer often says, the time to be concerned is when you aren't creating chances. Edited January 22, 2023 by Geordie Ahmed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, reefatoon said: You missed Joelintons 2 chances in the first half which should have been put away. Botman’s header was close tooo , well struck and could just as easily been the other side of the post. Edited January 22, 2023 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We’ve signed 3 real difference makers (outfield). Botman, Bruno and Isak have and will make us a very different team. We need 3 more, another top defender, another midfielder and another forward. All of similar quality. Add those and we’ll be purring. Tripps is a bit different. He needs an understudy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Done all he can with what he's got. I'd like to see more rotation, but if we did, we may not have seen the results we have. Trippier is playing like he needs a game or two off. Wilson is clearly put of steam as well, but Isak coming back should help with that. Board need to close a couple of signings this week, less faffing, more action or waste the best chance we've had in a decade to qualify for the CL. Even if we don't (I don't think we will) we at least gave it a go and land in the europa with a squad better equipped for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 ?????????? hopefully the stats of the missed goals opportunities will be put to bed soon enough, just like his old defensive stats! ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Other than Burn playing the whole season ahead of Targett, the biggest surprise in team selection for me at this stage is Longstaff playing every single game. Not that I'm slagging off Longstaff who does a vital amount of running and dirty work for the side. However I'd like to see a midfield of Bruno-Joelinton-Willock at some point, to open up another space in the front 3 for ASM or Isak. Do we think Howe is worried there isn't enough balance in that midfield three? Could it work alright? Obviously ASM or Isak will cover less defensively than Almiron/Joelinton do when they're the wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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