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Aye, I remember early in that West Ham being shocked at how we were dominating possession and how it completely took the crowd out if it.

 

Was such a foreign concept after years of having managers whose approach to every away game was to essentially concede possession and get men behind the ball and hope to fluke a counter attack at some point.

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11 hours ago, JonBez comesock said:

Eddie Howe is an unbelievable manager. Still Massively underrated and should be getting way more credit 

 

We were dead and buried last year and we finished 11th !!
 

We went on such a good run , and I think from (January to may) the form we were in was the 3rd best in the league? 

 

This year he has carried that on with not a huge spend in the summer (as everyone was expecting a lot more) 

 

He is hands down the best manager we have had in my lifetime and that includes Bobby Robson and Keegan 

 

I say that because he actually coaches the team (Keegan didn’t) 

 

He has the team the fittest I have ever seen us , defensively sound , dominating possession , front foot , committed , organised and has build an unbelievable team spirit !!

 

All in 18 months 

 

Dont get me wrong Bobby Robson was a fantastic manager and a living legend , Keegan is an icon (player and manager) but in a different way.

 

Howe just goes about his business in a perfect understated way,  but deep down you can see he has the steel in his eyes !

 

Love the bloke and I can see him winning trophies with us in the very best future , his ability to coach and manage will ensure he succeeds.

 

 

 

You are robbing Sir Bobby Robson and Keegan of their acheivments, and imo underminding what they did at the club. I agree that Howe`s first 18months have been fantastic, but he still have some way to go before he reached those two legends.

 

Keegan was appointed to a team that was struggling in the second tier, and steadied the ship, brought us back to the premier league, and made us title contenders. The entertainers

 

Sir Bobby Robson also took over a complete hoples Newcastle at the time, we had 1 point from the first 6 games. Kenny Dalglish and Gullit had ripped appart our team and team Spirit. Sir Bobby managed to get us up to 11th with those players, and later he made us a top 4 team in the league for some seasons.

 

Give Howe some time before we crown him the best manager ever, remember even Pardew looked the real deal for a season.

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25 minutes ago, Begbie said:

 

 

Give Howe some time before we crown him the best manager ever, remember even Pardew looked the real deal for a season.

 

Yes cos Eddie is just like Pardew isn't he ffs

Howe took over at a worse time than Robson player wise. Robson walked into a dressing room of Given. Speed Lee Shearer Solano.

Eddie has got us from being doomed at the bottom of the league to a cup final and on the verge of champions league in the space of 18 months. Whilst playing some of the best football in the league with the best defensive record

 

Give him abit more respect than comparing him to Pardew cheers

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4 hours ago, Cronky said:

 

:thup: The real eye-opener for me was last February, when I went to see them at West Ham. At the time, West Ham were in the CL places, and our starting team was Dubravka, Krafth, Burn, Schar, Targett, Shelvey, Willock, Joelinton, Murphy, Wood, Fraser. So eight of the team were pre-Eddie, and two out of the three newcomers (Burn, Targett) had not been regular starters for their previous clubs. The other was Chris Wood.

 

The game kicked off and I just could not believe what I was seeing. We were actually the better side, with the majority of possession, knocking the ball around with confidence. Players that a few weeks ago had not looked capable of stringing two passes together were calling the shots. It finished 1-1 but it was no fluke and we were unlucky not to win. And this was playing away against a top four club.

 

I'd never seen a transformation like it, and it was then that the thought sprung to me that we might be on the verge of something special.

That was the first game after Trippier got injured, wasn't it? I recall everyone shitting themselves over Krafth coming in for the match. Then he had a great game, and a great finish to the season too...

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3 hours ago, Begbie said:

You are robbing Sir Bobby Robson and Keegan of their acheivments, and imo underminding what they did at the club. I agree that Howe`s first 18months have been fantastic, but he still have some way to go before he reached those two legends.

 

Keegan was appointed to a team that was struggling in the second tier, and steadied the ship, brought us back to the premier league, and made us title contenders. The entertainers

 

Sir Bobby Robson also took over a complete hoples Newcastle at the time, we had 1 point from the first 6 games. Kenny Dalglish and Gullit had ripped appart our team and team Spirit. Sir Bobby managed to get us up to 11th with those players, and later he made us a top 4 team in the league for some seasons.

 

Give Howe some time before we crown him the best manager ever, remember even Pardew looked the real deal for a season.

 

Pardew never looked the real deal ever.

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3 hours ago, FLUMPO235 said:

Has anyone suggested having a massive god save the king display tomorrow with wor flags, but with king Eddie?

 

 

:indi: I did suggest it was the true coronation on Sunday! Return of the new true king! 

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Just now, gjohnson said:

Now that is how a manager should be. Hopefully he keeps the same humility when he lifts our next trophy.

 

Awesome 

I’m sure he’ll be the last person on his list credited for the achievement! 

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4 hours ago, Begbie said:

Sir Bobby Robson also took over a complete hoples Newcastle at the time, we had 1 point from the first 6 games. Kenny Dalglish and Gullit had ripped appart our team and team Spirit. Sir Bobby managed to get us up to 11th with those players, and later he made us a top 4 team in the league for some seasons.

 

 

Not sure why you don't think we can compare Eddie and Bobby.  Eddie Howe took a team in a more dire situation (5 points from 11 games) and also got us to 11th.  This season we're on track for top 4 - a year quicker than Bobby managed.

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1 hour ago, KaKa said:

 

Pardew never looked the real deal ever.

 

He did to people that only look at results, just like that one season of Bruce where he SURPASSED anything Rafa ever did while being dead last in the league in expected points. :lol:

 

 

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Go back to the conclusion of 2011/12 and plenty of people, myself included, were saying Pardew was - at least - the best since Robson, even in spite of there being a general recognition that results often bettered the performances themselves, and he all but stumbled upon that formation which saw us hurtle towards a high finish. I'm sure very few on here were begrudging his Manager of the Year award at the time. 

 

I'm dangerously close to defending Pardew there; the point I'm taking too long to get to is that it's definitely incredibly premature to put Howe on a pedestal with Keegan, imo. He's had a sensational start and his trajectory indicates a very good chance of him surpassing the achievements of the very best in my lifetime, but he's not there yet. Keegan took us from oblivion to title challengers in about five minutes, meanwhile Bobby took a broken team and made them consistent European challengers - granted it took a couple full seasons.

 

They've also (and I realise this will be unpopular but imo it's definitely true) got more charisma in their little fingers than Howe does total. He's a likeable bloke and I have all the respect in the world for the way he carries himself, but I couldn't 'listen to him all day' in the same way I would the other two. I acknowledge though that his media style has contributed to his success so far, so it's not meant as a criticism in any way, shape or form; just a comparison. 

 

I love that he is our manager and feel optimistic that he's going to break our duck, and at that point he'll have pipped the others aforementioned. But until then...

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2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Go back to the conclusion of 2011/12 and plenty of people, myself included, were saying Pardew was - at least - the best since Robson, even in spite of there being a general recognition that results often bettered the performances themselves, and he all but stumbled upon that formation which saw us hurtle towards a high finish. I'm sure very few on here were begrudging his Manager of the Year award at the time. 

 

I'm dangerously close to defending Pardew there; the point I'm taking too long to get to is that it's definitely incredibly premature to put Howe on a pedestal with Keegan, imo. He's had a sensational start and his trajectory indicates a very good chance of him surpassing the achievements of the very best in my lifetime, but he's not there yet. Keegan took us from oblivion to title challengers in about five minutes, meanwhile Bobby took a broken team and made them consistent European challengers - granted it took a couple full seasons.

 

They've also (and I realise this will be unpopular but imo it's definitely true) got more charisma in their little fingers than Howe does total. He's a likeable bloke and I have all the respect in the world for the way he carries himself, but I couldn't 'listen to him all day' in the same way I would the other two. I acknowledge though that his media style has contributed to his success so far, so it's not meant as a criticism in any way, shape or form; just a comparison. 

 

I love that he is our manager and feel optimistic that he's going to break our duck, and at that point he'll have pipped the others aforementioned. But until then...

 

Very interesting thoughts and I agree to a point. On the charisma thing, I think Eddie protects himself (and the players by extension) by being cool and calm and calculating in every media interview. He keeps emotions well out of it and manages interviews really well. It doesn't lead to any true insights, I suspect he is very different on a personal level and off-camera, but yeah, his interviews all sound broadly the same. It won't win him any charisma awards but at the end of the day, I think it's a self-preservation thing and keeps controversy far away. 

 

Besides, in the charisma stakes, who can beat SBR saying "our tickets are selling like cream cakes" :lol:

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Pardew had a fantastic set of players at his disposal and ultimately screwed it up in the end by being the moron he always is. 

 

There was nothing special about his setup or tactical approach, whatsoever. That season was all about great moments from Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse and Cabaye.

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5 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

Pardew never looked the real deal ever.

Yeah our mediocre GD suggested that we were fairly lucky that season. Howe has at least continued the same form for a season and a half.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Troll said:

 

Not sure why you don't think we can compare Eddie and Bobby.  Eddie Howe took a team in a more dire situation (5 points from 11 games) and also got us to 11th.  This season we're on track for top 4 - a year quicker than Bobby managed.

 

Bobby took over a much better team that just needed a bit of guidance. Given, Solano, Speed, Dyer, Shearer, Ferguson with some decent players around that like Barton, Lee, Dabizas and Hughes...

 

The squad Howe inherited was shocking. 

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