black_n_white Posted Monday at 22:08 Share Posted Monday at 22:08 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: I said in the match thread that it's happening too many times that level of performance and questions have to be asked. It's not a one off and the same mistakes are being made on and off the pitch. Don’t worry we’ll turn up against a top 6 team soon and everything will be back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Monday at 22:08 Share Posted Monday at 22:08 He got it wrong tonight. Pep’s getting it wrong too. They are human. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Monday at 22:09 Share Posted Monday at 22:09 5 minutes ago, KDT said: Win = Eddie is bestest Lose = Where’s Jose? This place is a fucking nightmare. It wasn't the loss though, it was the total lack of control in the game. Something we hoped we'd seen the back of after the last couple of wins. We were all over the place, and that is always going to come back on the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted Monday at 22:09 Share Posted Monday at 22:09 Just now, Shearergol said: He got it wrong tonight. Pep’s getting it wrong too. They are human. I mean, one of them has won a trophy or two mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Monday at 22:10 Share Posted Monday at 22:10 Just now, Aiston said: I mean, one of them has won a trophy or two mind. Some would argue the billions helped mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted Monday at 22:10 Share Posted Monday at 22:10 Doesn't seem to be learning and feels like he's peaked. I don't know how much patience the board shows in him with so much changing behind the scenes. I don't know who has his back, and I wonder if that is creeping into the players. Has an inevitability about it all. Can honestly see Jose rocking up here in the next 6 weeks. He'd do alright for a while, but we'd be back to this point when he goes stale. Meh. PL have fucked us and Howe all over. Just doesn't seem like it's worth being arsed anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted Monday at 22:10 Share Posted Monday at 22:10 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: To be fair I doubt anyone would want Jose regardless of their view about Howe after tonight. I agree, but people need to get their heads out of the sand, as the problems are happening far too many times. It's not looking at individual games, it's looking at a collective of games over the season. The same errors and poor play are occurring far too many times Edited Monday at 22:11 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted Monday at 22:11 Share Posted Monday at 22:11 We are too predictable as others have said no plan B. When we sell a Bruno or Isak I don’t trust him (if he has a say) to spend well. Can’t believe how bad Kelly looked the fact we are still playing Murphy the fact we signed barnes instead of a right winger with about 5 options on the left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted Monday at 22:12 Share Posted Monday at 22:12 It's just so frustrating as he's such a good chap. Really bright and sensible. Wish he had a bit more about him tactically and when you listen to him it's really surprising that he's pretty much a one trick pony and how stubborn he is in his approach to football. Not sure if he'll ever evolve tbh. We'll see, but I doubt it. Hope I'm wrong. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Monday at 22:12 Share Posted Monday at 22:12 Just now, Dokko said: Doesn't seem to be learning and feels like he's peaked. I don't know how much patience the board shows in him with so much changing behind the scenes. I don't know who has his back, and I wonder if that is creeping into the players. Has an inevitability about it all. Can honestly see Jose rocking up here in the next 6 weeks. He'd do alright for a while, but we'd be back to this point when he goes stale. Meh. PL have fucked us and Howe all over. Just doesn't seem like it's worth being arsed anymore. He’ll be here this season but I have a feeling he’ll get the chop if we don’t get Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted Monday at 22:12 Share Posted Monday at 22:12 1 minute ago, black_n_white said: Don’t worry we’ll turn up against a top 6 team soon and everything will be back. Think it suits him to play against the better teams, we don’t have majority of possession, can sit deep and play on the break. Playing at home against a deep lying defence we haven’t got a fucking clue, only 2 shots on target tonight tell the story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 Who could have predicted this reaction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 We should have been home and dry in the first half, we were all over them but for a decent final ball. Silly mistake, let a goal in and exactly the same as brighton; they perk up and we fade... I thought the players heads and energy just went in the second half. We don't have a player who can unlock defences and that sort of player costs a huge amount. I don't really blame eddie because allnof our midfield and our defence were a shambles tonight. Kelly, livra, bruno, joes, gordon all went missing... what can he do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 Just now, TRon said: It wasn't the loss though, it was the total lack of control in the game. Something we hoped we'd seen the back of after the last couple of wins. We were all over the place, and that is always going to come back on the manager. I’d say we controlled 2/3 of the first half and probably up until the 2nd goal, we seemed to tire early. Isak & Bruno especially, probably the International break to blame for that. Their midfield outplayed ours which was where the game was won, Willock had one of those games that he’s prone to, can’t trap a bag of cement etc etc. We struggled when trying to chase it when it went 2 down, gaps appeared as you would probably expect. A bad night all round really, if we score to make it 1-1 before half time I think we go on to win the game. Onto the next one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 (edited) I'd blame the manager if any of this was his fault. Needed to buy players. Weren't allowed to buy players. Stuck with players that aren't good enough. Totally limited in what he can do. Can't alternate because the fringe the 'bench' isn't good enough. One fit striker *near permanently. Has to play a free transfer plank because three defenders are out. None of that is his fault. Edited Monday at 22:14 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 That second half was as bad as anything we've seen at SJP in his time here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 I just wish we could play at consistent high level without feeling like every player has to put a 12km shift in to win a game. If we're not forcing mistakes it feels like we don't know what to do when we're carrying the ball forward. Mind we should have put a few away tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bada Bing Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 (edited) Think the players let him down badly tonight. I don’t buy the notion they are badly coached, certainly not the extent to put that shift in. Some senior players’ attitude stunk today. Edited Monday at 22:16 by Bada Bing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 (edited) 2 minutes ago, tinoasprilla said: When we sell a Bruno or Isak I don’t trust him (if he has a say) to spend well. Unfortunately I agree. This would slow down an already significantly slowed down project and a disaster. I can see Isak leaving in the summer. Anything below 7th, Eddie has to go. Edited Monday at 22:14 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Monday at 22:14 Share Posted Monday at 22:14 Who you are playing and expectation levels have such an impact on things. Could have got away with a spirited defeat to Arsenal, a draw at Forest and then a big win tonight and the mood would be better. Despite getting less points. As it is. We got 6 slightly unexpected points in the bag after two very good performances and results. But hen serve up one of the most pathetic second half showings I have seen in a long time. I suppose it feels more concerning because we’re not actually building momentum and we have seen that type of clueless performance when going behind a bit too often under Howe. The first half was actually pretty good. But then we just capitulated and completely ran out of ideas again. Proper cliched, Sunday League stuff. But once we went to 4-4-2. I lost count of the amount of 50/50’s, headers and 2nd balls we lost. They were first to everything and should have won by more in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Monday at 22:14 Share Posted Monday at 22:14 9 minutes ago, KDT said: Win = Eddie is bestest Lose = Where’s Jose? This place is a fucking nightmare. Why are we the only set of fans that aren't allowed to criticise the manager after an odd performance at home, against a struggling side who are / were about to sack their own manager after we've already seen this exact sort of performance a couple of times already this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Monday at 22:14 Share Posted Monday at 22:14 He panics in my opinion he makes subs and changes without any plan. Has players playing all over the park doesn't want to drop certain players who are in poor form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted Monday at 22:15 Share Posted Monday at 22:15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Who could have predicted this reaction Who could have predicted your response to that reaction. Why don't you contribute to the discussion instead of trying to sneer at other people's opinions Edited Monday at 22:17 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Monday at 22:15 Share Posted Monday at 22:15 Hmm... Hope Willock is back pronto. Felt confident going into halftime, did not feel confident when I saw he was replaced with Barnes. Saw the unwelcome return of our old friend, the horseshoe. Obviously, a dreadful second half once all was said and done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Monday at 22:15 Share Posted Monday at 22:15 2 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: He’ll be here this season but I have a feeling he’ll get the chop if we don’t get Europe. This. If we miss out of Europe again, then it will be seen as not progressing. Even without the season we gained CL football, the plan would have been to have European football either last season, or this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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