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It might be that he's simply burnt out. 4 and a half years is a long time to manage a football club at Premier League level. He's the 3rd longest serving manager in the league, aside from the 2 who are going head to head for the title and in that time he's had some pretty bad illnesses with the COVID and the pneumonia.

 

It must be such a mentally draining job to do, managing a football club at such a high level which is why few managers stay at a club for more than a couple of years. It might be that he's simply running on empty.

 

He does look so tired and low on energy if his recent press conferences and post match interviews are anything to go by. Certainly doesn't resemvle what he was like a year or 2 ago. His team is a reflection of that as they look the same, a couple even looking disinterested I think it's fair to say.

 

I think in an ideal world he has the rest of the season and him and the club mutually decide to part ways. I don't want him going on too long and sacking him would just feel a bit wrong after what he's achieved here. Mutually parting ways after the Fulham game and quick decisive action (not that our board are known for that) in bringing in a top quality replacement would be my preference.

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14 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

It might be that he's simply burnt out. 4 and a half years is a long time to manage a football club at Premier League level. He's the 3rd longest serving manager in the league, aside from the 2 who are going head to head for the title and in that time he's had some pretty bad illnesses with the COVID and the pneumonia.

 

It must be such a mentally draining job to do, managing a football club at such a high level which is why few managers stay at a club for more than a couple of years. It might be that he's simply running on empty.

 

He does look so tired and low on energy if his recent press conferences and post match interviews are anything to go by. Certainly doesn't resemvle what he was like a year or 2 ago. His team is a reflection of that as they look the same, a couple even looking disinterested I think it's fair to say.

 

I think in an ideal world he has the rest of the season and him and the club mutually decide to part ways. I don't want him going on too long and sacking him would just feel a bit wrong after what he's achieved here. Mutually parting ways after the Fulham game and quick decisive action (not that our board are known for that) in bringing in a top quality replacement would be my preference.

 

Whilst I agree with what you're saying, if he was to be going I'd rather they make that decision as soon as possible so SJP can give him the send off he deserves rather than the negative quasi pressure cooker atmospheres that I feel like could build in the remaining 2 home games. If the ball Bournemouth fizzed across the Gallowgate 6 yard line at 0-1 was turned in on Saturday I think it'd have got a bit nasty and he doesn't deserve that.

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3 minutes ago, Mike said:

We honestly need to give this season a name, so we can reference how shit it was adequately.

Assuming we sell the fucker, we can call it the Wissa season. Sums it up well. 

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5 minutes ago, Mike said:

We honestly need to give this season a name, so we can reference how shit it was adequately.

The Mike has a nice ring to it. 

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25 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

It might be that he's simply burnt out. 4 and a half years is a long time to manage a football club at Premier League level. He's the 3rd longest serving manager in the league, aside from the 2 who are going head to head for the title and in that time he's had some pretty bad illnesses with the COVID and the pneumonia.

 

It must be such a mentally draining job to do, managing a football club at such a high level which is why few managers stay at a club for more than a couple of years. It might be that he's simply running on empty.

 

He does look so tired and low on energy if his recent press conferences and post match interviews are anything to go by. Certainly doesn't resemvle what he was like a year or 2 ago. His team is a reflection of that as they look the same, a couple even looking disinterested I think it's fair to say.

 

I think in an ideal world he has the rest of the season and him and the club mutually decide to part ways. I don't want him going on too long and sacking him would just feel a bit wrong after what he's achieved here. Mutually parting ways after the Fulham game and quick decisive action (not that our board are known for that) in bringing in a top quality replacement would be my preference.

I’m sure I read somewhere that the vibes were very similar at Bournemouth - in so much he wanted to call it quits the season before they got relegated but the board convinced him to stay on - he had reached a point where he felt that was it 

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Snippets from Mark Douglas article today below:

 

The club is begging for change and it is coming. Recruitment is already pivoting under Wilson, whose relationship with Howe and conviction in the manager is his best protection against flat-lining form. I hear optimistic noises about the profile of player they are attempting to sign this summer, even if there will be painful sales to absorb. An optimistic take is that Howe comes along on that journey, chastened by poor form and convinced by Wilson that a part-data, part-global recruitment policy will arm his team better.

 

The version of events that lays the blame for Newcastle’s problems at the feet of the players negates to mention that Howe has had more influence than almost any manager over the composition of the squad. The chaos that saw a director of football quit and a chief executive out of action wasn’t his fault but Anthony Elanga, Aaron Ramsdale and Yoane Wissa were his picks.

 

Howe’s tendency to opt for tried and tested in the transfer market brought Newcastle to Ramsdale, who isn’t good enough. Sunderland plucked Robin Roefs from the Eredivise while Manchester United took Senne Lammens from the Belgian Pro League. Newcastle should have been shopping in those sort of markets.

One Premier League rival summed Newcastle up in one word this weekend: tired. Making a decision on Howe’s future now is the first step to re-energising a club on the brink of crisis

 

 

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Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Howe buying into a changed transfer policy of younger, exciting players, should be a match made in heaven tbh.

Except when he doesn’t play them and they’re stuck on the bench.

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2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Howe buying into a changed transfer policy of younger, exciting players, should be a match made in heaven tbh.

 

Wish it had happened the summer Mitchell came in. Fear it might be too late for Howe now.

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Just now, Whitley mag said:

Except when he doesn’t play them and they’re stuck on the bench.

 

...because they aren't suited into his 4-3-3 formation, or aren't athletic/don't press enough.

 

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6 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Except when he doesn’t play them and they’re stuck on the bench.

 

Youngest combined starting eleven in 21 years at the weekend, but crack on peddling myths.

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He looks like a busted flush to me. 

Cannot change and won't change, 

Sticking to his playing methods and substitute deficiencies, not giving youth a chance when things aren't working dragging probably our player of the season off for tripps, taking off tonali who was captain and playing quite well. When tino gets injured he couldn't wait to get burn on the pitch. 

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I think if anything the Summer taught us - without a project to sell to players - Eddie cannot attract players to the club.  It's one of the reasons I am not convinced he's the man for the rebuild.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Howe buying into a changed transfer policy of younger, exciting players, should be a match made in heaven tbh.


Define exciting though? Quick, pressing machines? We know we won’t target technically superior players.

 

Would love to be more positive but just can’t see any of this being a thing.

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18 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:
21 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Youngest combined starting eleven in 21 years at the weekend, but crack on peddling myths.

He got a great tune out of them as well

 

Well what does that tell you? :lol:

 

The thing about him not giving young players a chance has always been horseshit. If they're good enough to play and he's trusted them to enact his tactical gameplan, they've played.

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1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Well what does that tell you? :lol:

 

The thing about him not giving young players a chance has always been horseshit. If they're good enough to play and he's trusted them to enact his tactical gameplan, they've played.

There are many questionable elements to people's reasoning for why Howe is shit imo.

 

The main thing of credence is the formation/strategy and some of his players selection/substitutes. Beyond that I think folk speculatively generate reasons to degrade him to suit their preference.

 

 

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I don’t think it’s in question he has favourites mind, but he won’t be the only one to go for trust over risk.

 

I do think what separates the great from the elite when it comes to management is someone’s appetite to risk. That doesn’t just apply to football either.

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27 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Or much more simply, it's harder to get deals done with no CEO or DoF. When we did, we had no problem attracting players.

 

I'm sure people are just ignoring this small fact for the banta now. 

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