New Beginnings Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 @Ando7suggested last Friday that we may see a surprise name next week? Is this Ten Hag or are we still waiting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, New Beginnings said: @Ando7suggested last Friday that we may see a surprise name next week? Is this Ten Hag or are we still waiting? We have to trust the process apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Fonseca Pros: suave bastard, plays pretty football, his sides are well coached offensively. Cons: his style of play requires players who are comfortable on the ball and full backs who aren't Matt Ritchie, his sides tend to concede a few goals, he hasn't done it on a cold Wednesday night at Burnley. Favre Pros: experience of improving struggling sides, plays decent football, astute in the transfer market. Cons: his sides tend to struggle defensively, his in-game tactics are limited, he hadn't done it on a cold Thursday night at Norwich. Howe Pros: took a league two side and became an established Premier league club, plays decent football, he has done it on a cold Friday night at Huddersfield. Cons: his sides tend to be defensively ropey, he paid circa sixty million quite for Jordan Ibe and Dominic Solanke, he's a soft southerner. Martinez Pros: his sides play decent football, he won the FA Cup, he finished 5th in the greatest league in the whole wide world. Cons: he doesn't know how to organise a defensive unit, he once called Tom Cleverly technically as good as it gets, he has relegated a side and was well on his way to with a second. Thank you so much. This is ridiculously appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 At BVB Favre was not in charge of signing players, don’t know about previous clubs he managed. Dortmund have their own scouting network. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I just think it is great that none of these names, or any other news at all about a D o F or Manager/Head Coach, has come from our new owners. No leaks - deliberate or otherwise - have come out at all. Everything we have been told by journalists is (at best) 100% guesswork, or (at worst) 100% malicious rumour-mongering. We are now in high calibre and safe hands . . . so different it is hard to get used to it !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, manorpark said: I just think it is great that none of these names, or any other news at all about a D o F or Manager/Head Coach, is Steve Bruce has come from our new owners. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, manorpark said: We are now in high calibre and safe hands . . . so different it is hard to get used to it !!! You don't know this yet. The failure to success ratio in football decision-making is heavily skewed towards the shit in my experience. Granted they'll probably have the money to fix mistakes but don't just assume everything is going to be gravy from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: You don't know this yet. The failure to success ratio in football decision-making is heavily skewed towards the shit in my experience. Granted they'll probably have the money to fix mistakes but don't just assume everything is going to be gravy from now on. Mag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: You don't know this yet. The failure to success ratio in football decision-making is heavily skewed towards the shit in my experience. Granted they'll probably have the money to fix mistakes but don't just assume everything is going to be gravy from now on. We DO know this, of course we do. I have been saying for more than 18 months that the absolute certainty of the eventual success of the Takeover was down to the "Calibre" of the people wanting to buy us. They were 'winners' and successful in Business in getting what they wanted. That applied to the Reubens, P I F, and PCP. They know how to do things, and they are now our owners. They will (again) succeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, manorpark said: We DO know this, of course we do. I have been saying for more than 18 months that the absolute certainty of the eventual success of the Takeover was down to the "Calibre" of the people wanting to buy us. They were 'winners' and successful in Business in getting what they wanted. That applied to the Reubens, P I F, and PCP. They know how to do things, and they are now our owners. They will (again) succeed. Aren't the Brit side of it all from inherited wealth and the Saudi's have more oil money than sense I mean I agree they'll put things in place and the club will no doubt now be professionally run but don't delude yourself that they're not gonna some bad footballing decisions along the way because they are, and they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Aren't the Brit side of it all from inherited wealth and the Saudi's have more oil money than sense I mean I agree they'll put things in place and the club will no doubt now be professionally run but don't delude yourself that they're not gonna some bad footballing decisions along the way because they are, and they will. Everybody gets things wrong from time to time (I never "delude" myself, life is too short for that) but what we all have to get used to - and I know it is difficult - is that from now on NUFC decisions are very, very likely to be made that are usually the right/best ones, and that the end results are likely to be usually very good. The ratio of "good to bad outcomes" is now going to be so completely different from previously that it is genuinly difficult to assimilate it . . . but I am trying to !! Edited October 28, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, manorpark said: Everybody gets things wrong from time to time (I never "delude" myself, life is too short for that) but what we all have to get used to - and I know it is difficult - is that NUFC decisions are very, very likely to be made that are usually the right/best ones, and that the end results are likely to be usually very good. The ratio of "good to bad outcomes" is now going to be so completely different from previously that it is genuinly difficult to assimilate it . . . but I am trying to !! and then welcome to your new manager..........Nigel Pearson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, manorpark said: We DO know this, of course we do. I have been saying for more than 18 months that the absolute certainty of the eventual success of the Takeover was down to the "Calibre" of the people wanting to buy us. They were 'winners' and successful in Business in getting what they wanted. That applied to the Reubens, P I F, and PCP. They know how to do things, and they are now our owners. They will (again) succeed. They asked Harry Redknapp for advice. Jam Roly Poly for dessert at the Chelsea game. Edited October 28, 2021 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Fonseca Pros: suave bastard, plays pretty football, his sides are well coached offensively. Cons: his style of play requires players who are comfortable on the ball and full backs who aren't Matt Ritchie, his sides tend to concede a few goals, he hasn't done it on a cold Wednesday night at Burnley. Favre Pros: experience of improving struggling sides, plays decent football, astute in the transfer market. Cons: his sides tend to struggle defensively, his in-game tactics are limited, he hadn't done it on a cold Thursday night at Norwich. Howe Pros: took a league two side and became an established Premier league club, plays decent football, he has done it on a cold Friday night at Huddersfield. Cons: his sides tend to be defensively ropey, he paid circa sixty million quite for Jordan Ibe and Dominic Solanke, he's a soft southerner. Martinez Pros: his sides play decent football, he won the FA Cup, he finished 5th in the greatest league in the whole wide world. Cons: he doesn't know how to organise a defensive unit, he once called Tom Cleverly technically as good as it gets, he has relegated a side and was well on his way to with a second. Wheres Ten ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just now, Ben said: Wheres Ten ? After 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just now, Happinesstan said: They asked Harry Redknapp for advice. Says who, where? If I was them I would ask for football advice from huge numbers of people across the game, as wide a range of people as possible, that is the very best way to arrive at your OWN 'best judgement' on anything, but whether I would actually take any 'specific individual bit' of advice from any one individual is a very different thing altogether! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lazarus said: After 9. but 7 8 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) If Newcastle ends up being anything like Neom or The Line then people will be in for a bit of a rude awakening like. The massive ambition and huge promises were there for those things, but mojo has it absolutely right about there being more money than sense. It shouldn't be the same because spending money on football clubs is at least possible compared to the literally impossible things they had planned for Neom, but that doesn't mean the people with the money who are in control of Newcastle now are in any way safe hands that can be trusted to make the right decisions. Edited October 28, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, kisearch said: If Newcastle ends up being anything like Neom or The Line then people will be in for a bit of a rude awakening like. The massive ambition and huge promises were there for those things, but mojo has it absolutely right about there being more money than sense. It shouldn't be the same because spending money on football clubs is at least possible compared to the literally impossible things they had planned for Neom, but that doesn't mean the people with the money who are in control of Newcastle now are in any way safe hands that can be trusted to make the right decisions. Some very illogical comparisons there, just grasping at the Saudi Arabia connection. How and why would you arrive at the last part of your post I cannot fathom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just now, manorpark said: Some very illogical comparisons there, just grasping at the Saudi Arabia connection. How and why would you arrive at the last part of your post I cannot fathom? I haven't arrived at anything, that's sort of the point. I'm saying that arriving at the conclusion that the club's now in safe hands is jumping the gun. Until they prove it, there's nothing to show that they're a safe pair of hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Its in hands that at least want to succeed, unlike the last pair which at times sabotaged us intentionally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 As long as there's no proper interest in Koeman. We should pass on that Dutchie for this Ten Hag guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, elbee909 said: As long as there's no proper interest in Koeman. We should pass on that Dutchie for this Ten Hag guy. 🙄😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, elbee909 said: As long as there's no proper interest in Koeman. We should pass on that Dutchie for this Ten Hag guy. 100% agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Forcing it with the italics, but not bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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